Comments for internetmonk.com http://www.internetmonk.com ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Sat, 28 Mar 2015 16:17:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by oscar http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966318 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 16:17:45 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966318 numo, clearly you are not a Duck Dynasty fan (I don’t have cable so I can’t watch it anyway) but I think you may be attributing beliefs to Robertson that he may not believe in. “Pointy white hoods”? PLEASE! If you haven’t read or watched, anything these guys have out there then how can you say something like that?

Enough has been printed, and posted on the internet, that anyone interested can be filled in on the Duck guys (and gals) belief systems. And in NONE of them do they propose race based discrimination as your “pointy white hoods” allusion may suggest.

Sure, they are over the top in their public statements )at least daddy Phil is), but remember, it is TELEVISION, and REALITY TV, to boot! It is self promotion all the way, and media mavens will pick up ant outrageous (perceived) statement and put it out there to confirm their own trope.

And his analogy, clumsy as it is for an uneducated guy (his kids are college graduates, btw.) does NOT imply that atheists deserve murder, as you are implying. It is just a very clumsy effort to point out that with no OBJECTIVE moral standard that they are subject to any old SUBJECTIVE definition of morality.

Beat him up for being clumsy of speech, uneducated, backwoods…whatever…but the fact remains, unless you have an objective standard of morality you then have no standing to criticize someone else’s subjective standards. Even some of the noted atheists admit that they are “borrowing” Christian standards to validate their own standards.

I may be totally off base here, but I don’t think so.

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by numo http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966316 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 16:00:39 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966316 The woman who is presenting the paper is Chickasaw, too.

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by Trevis http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966315 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 15:58:24 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966315 If Urschel insisted his Erdos number was pi, I wouldn’t argue with him.

I was privileged to see Erdos one or two times before he passed away about 20 years ago. Basically a mathematical St. Anthony.

One of my grad school classmates was able to corral him on one of his open problems and thereby obtain an Erdos number 1 before finishing grad school.

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by numo http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966314 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 15:52:27 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966314 Daniel, i do not think his god is the one you believe in.

Also, re. theism, he is clearly saying that atheists deserve what they get, and that is chilling – especially the way he describes it. He also clearly believes that no atheist hws and morsl values or ethics. i wonder if he has a pointy white hood stashed on his property somewhere? i am not trying to be ptovocative; he sounds like the people who inveighed against Civil Rights activists and black people in general, back when i was growing up. He simply chooses different groups of people.

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by AnnieOly http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966313 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 15:51:58 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966313 My top 3 –
Sojourner Truth
Dorothy Day
Rachel Carson

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by Joel http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966312 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 15:25:29 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966312 You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one
I hope one day you’ll join me, and the world will live as one

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by Michael Z http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966311 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 15:08:10 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966311 I think it’s possible to imagine a US where economic growth is seldom interrupted by large recessions and where most people are able to earn a decent living. Arguably, that’s what we had for most of the second half of the last century. But much of our economy depends on having a middle class that can actually spend money on things. (Well, it used to; now it depends on the middle class being able to borrow enough money to spend on things.) A flat tax combined with an end to affordable health care would do nothing but exacerbate the current divide between rich and poor, and the end result of that will be economic collapse, not economic growth.

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by Robert F http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966310 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 14:55:18 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966310 Over at the Postmodern Quaker blog, you’ll find a self-confessed non-theistic Quaker who nevertheless talks deeply, and compellingly, about his involvement in Quaker worship, and Quaker theology, all interpreted psychologically.

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by Jazziscoolithink http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966309 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 14:53:59 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966309 +1

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Comment on Saturday Ramblings, March 28, 2015 by Robert F http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/saturday-ramblings-march-28-2015/comment-page-1#comment-966307 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 14:52:42 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=55448#comment-966307 I agree that Shuck is beyond the boundaries of traditional Christian faith. Otoh, there are conservative Christians who fill traditional doctrinal language, and scripture, with meanings that also express faith in universal spiritual principles rather than in the person of Jesus Christ. Think of the Prayer of Jabez, or many of those books you see bursting the shelves of Christian bookstores about how to lead a more successful lifestyle, how to manage every little aspect of your personal life, and how not to get God real mad.

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