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		<title>Comment on iMonk Classic: Ten Questions About the Bible + one rant by Tom (aka Volkmar)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom (aka Volkmar)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael just simply read too much Capon....


;o)


Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael just simply read too much Capon&#8230;.</p>
<p>;o)</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Don&#8217;t Advertise Our Spiritual Experiences by K.W. Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/2cor-10-13-5/comment-page-1#comment-628378</link>
		<dc:creator>K.W. Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy the idea that Paul was talking about himself when he referred to the person in Christ who was caught up to the third heaven. I know it&#039;s a popular interpretation -- we fans of Paul would love to think God gave him revelations like that. But the problem is that &lt;i&gt;Paul&lt;/i&gt; would love revelations like that too; he says himself that he has no problems boasting about &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; guy. &quot;On behalf of such a one I will boast.&quot;

Where he&#039;s loath to boast are about his &quot;qualifications,&quot; such as they are, which it appears he finds a bit embarrassing, having been a prosecutor; and his torment and weaknesses, which would hardly be the sort of thing your average attention-seeker would&#039;ve pointed to. His point, in bringing up the heaven-visitor, is to show by contrast that he&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; that guy. That guy can boast in strength. Paul can only boast in weakness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy the idea that Paul was talking about himself when he referred to the person in Christ who was caught up to the third heaven. I know it&#8217;s a popular interpretation &#8212; we fans of Paul would love to think God gave him revelations like that. But the problem is that <i>Paul</i> would love revelations like that too; he says himself that he has no problems boasting about <i>that</i> guy. &#8220;On behalf of such a one I will boast.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where he&#8217;s loath to boast are about his &#8220;qualifications,&#8221; such as they are, which it appears he finds a bit embarrassing, having been a prosecutor; and his torment and weaknesses, which would hardly be the sort of thing your average attention-seeker would&#8217;ve pointed to. His point, in bringing up the heaven-visitor, is to show by contrast that he&#8217;s <i>not</i> that guy. That guy can boast in strength. Paul can only boast in weakness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Arithmetic of Grace by Richard Hershberger</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-arithmetic-of-grace/comment-page-1#comment-628377</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hershberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a cookie.  It does wonders for over-thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a cookie.  It does wonders for over-thinking.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Don&#8217;t Advertise Our Spiritual Experiences by Dave K eh?</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/2cor-10-13-5/comment-page-1#comment-628376</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave K eh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have really struggled with how to react to stories such as the story about the little boy &quot;going to heaven and back&quot; during surgery.  One day my wife came home from work (she teaches at a Christian elementary school) and told me about how one of the staff there that day told her story about how she came to Christ.  The story included how when she met a certain man for the first time, God spoke to her and said that this was the man she was going to marry.  Turns out later on she did marry that guy and they have been happily married for quite some time.  My wife was touched by that story and it just made her exclaim how amazing God truly is.  I opened my big fat skeptic mouth and said &quot;Do you think that maybe she embellished her story? Do really think that in the moment they met, God told her that she would marry that guy someday?  Maybe it&#039;s true, but it sounds kinda fishy.&quot;  I think my comments took away some of the effect that this woman&#039;s story initially had on my wife.  I&#039;ve seen it other times too, with friends and family members.  To me, a lot of them seem like tall tales as many people enjoy a good story now and then.  I find most of these stories may involve God to a small extent, but the focus of the story is on &quot;how it made me feel&quot;, and people LOVE to hear these stories being told.  I really try not to say anything, but often these stories just seem so self focused, fake and nauseating. I really don&#039;t know how to react.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really struggled with how to react to stories such as the story about the little boy &#8220;going to heaven and back&#8221; during surgery.  One day my wife came home from work (she teaches at a Christian elementary school) and told me about how one of the staff there that day told her story about how she came to Christ.  The story included how when she met a certain man for the first time, God spoke to her and said that this was the man she was going to marry.  Turns out later on she did marry that guy and they have been happily married for quite some time.  My wife was touched by that story and it just made her exclaim how amazing God truly is.  I opened my big fat skeptic mouth and said &#8220;Do you think that maybe she embellished her story? Do really think that in the moment they met, God told her that she would marry that guy someday?  Maybe it&#8217;s true, but it sounds kinda fishy.&#8221;  I think my comments took away some of the effect that this woman&#8217;s story initially had on my wife.  I&#8217;ve seen it other times too, with friends and family members.  To me, a lot of them seem like tall tales as many people enjoy a good story now and then.  I find most of these stories may involve God to a small extent, but the focus of the story is on &#8220;how it made me feel&#8221;, and people LOVE to hear these stories being told.  I really try not to say anything, but often these stories just seem so self focused, fake and nauseating. I really don&#8217;t know how to react.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coffee Cups by MikeH</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/28534/comment-page-1#comment-628375</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been there, done that. You have no idea how hard that is until you live it. Thank the Lord, it does get easier in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there, done that. You have no idea how hard that is until you live it. Thank the Lord, it does get easier in time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on iMonk Classic: Ten Questions About the Bible + one rant by Chaplain Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaplain Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I removed it, Marvin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I removed it, Marvin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on iMonk Classic: Ten Questions About the Bible + one rant by Marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comment in Item 11: ” I am in the emerging corner when it comes to theology as a “package.” ” So internetmonk is part of the ermerging church movement? I had my suspicions.  (this was supposed to start a new string, not be a reply to thurston - how do I delete? (BTW – I checked i am human on the erroneously placed posting))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comment in Item 11: ” I am in the emerging corner when it comes to theology as a “package.” ” So internetmonk is part of the ermerging church movement? I had my suspicions.  (this was supposed to start a new string, not be a reply to thurston &#8211; how do I delete? (BTW – I checked i am human on the erroneously placed posting))</p>
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		<title>Comment on iMonk Classic: Ten Questions About the Bible + one rant by Chaplain Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-ten-questions-about-the-bible-one-rant/comment-page-1#comment-628372</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaplain Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that too, Marvin. There may have been a moment or two when Michael would have used that word (tentatively) to describe himself. But ultimately, he didn&#039;t like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that too, Marvin. There may have been a moment or two when Michael would have used that word (tentatively) to describe himself. But ultimately, he didn&#8217;t like it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coffee Cups by pilgrim_sojourner</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/28534/comment-page-1#comment-628371</link>
		<dc:creator>pilgrim_sojourner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is a scary thought that this day is coming for each of us who are married.&quot;
Actually...this day is coming for all those who LOVE....married or not. My wife of 22 yrs left over 6 years ago...and the pain for me....will be no less than for this gentleman in the story....if and when she &#039;passes&#039;. She was, is, and always will be the one &#039;love of my life&#039;....who is now fighting a waiting game for tests...and possibly surgery....to see if her heart holds out till she can actually get the medical treatment she needs.
When one truly loves....one simply cannot avoid the commeasurate grief that accompanies/follows the incredible joy...of having loved.
Blessings,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is a scary thought that this day is coming for each of us who are married.&#8221;<br />
Actually&#8230;this day is coming for all those who LOVE&#8230;.married or not. My wife of 22 yrs left over 6 years ago&#8230;and the pain for me&#8230;.will be no less than for this gentleman in the story&#8230;.if and when she &#8216;passes&#8217;. She was, is, and always will be the one &#8216;love of my life&#8217;&#8230;.who is now fighting a waiting game for tests&#8230;and possibly surgery&#8230;.to see if her heart holds out till she can actually get the medical treatment she needs.<br />
When one truly loves&#8230;.one simply cannot avoid the commeasurate grief that accompanies/follows the incredible joy&#8230;of having loved.<br />
Blessings,</p>
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		<title>Comment on iMonk Classic: Ten Questions About the Bible + one rant by Marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-ten-questions-about-the-bible-one-rant/comment-page-1#comment-628369</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The logic of mathematics has been proven to be complete or consistent, but not both (Godel&#039;s Incompleteness Theorem). Often wonder if it applies to Theology as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The logic of mathematics has been proven to be complete or consistent, but not both (Godel&#8217;s Incompleteness Theorem). Often wonder if it applies to Theology as well.</p>
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