Comments for internetmonk.com http://www.internetmonk.com ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:07:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by Christiane http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-948029 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:07:31 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-948029 so beautifully written, LISA

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by MarinaL http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-948020 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 01:17:10 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-948020 Lisa, this is beautiful – one of the most moving and thought provoking reflections that I’ve read this Advent. Thank you.

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by ChrisS http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-948006 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 00:10:06 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-948006 I love this Lisa. Richard Rohr had a very similar meditation a few days back. He discussed the scripture about being ready for the master of the house to return and how we always think of it as the second coming or perhaps readiness for our own time of death. To paraphrase the point he made, we are eternally receiving the approaching Christ and that if that isn’t our posture then we are never ready. A continuous state of receptivity is a good start at following Paul’s exhortation to ‘pray always’. I think this was a fabulous post. Thank you.

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by Michael Bell http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-947997 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:56:56 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-947997 I am “for” this.

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by Rick Ro. http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-947992 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:49:16 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-947992 Just so I’m not one of those people who posts only when articles are controversial and need to be FOUGHT FOR OR AGAINST…

Lisa, this is great. Thanks for sharing your heart. Fine, good words.

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by Lisa Dye http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-947965 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:16:36 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-947965 Charles, I am very fortunate to have had this Greek class for the last four years. My teacher is a pastor who does this because he loves it and charges only for materials. I go as much for the theological applications as I do for the grammar and translation (I’m not very good). During the time I have been going, the students have been priests, pastors, linguists and lay people from several denominations. The class has truly been a blessing to me.

I think you hit the nail on the head in saying that parousia is as much about presence as it is about the anticipation of arrival. That is what my teacher was trying to convey. He mentioned that thinking in those terms casts a different light on interpreting end time events as well as on how we live out our days as individuals. We ran out of time and couldn’t explore that, but I have been giving those ideas some thought.

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by David Cornwell http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-947962 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:45:43 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-947962 Lisa, you haven’t failed at all. Your explanation of “parousia” gets to the heart of the language of the matter as much as anyone can. The problem with some theology is the idea that it can logically explain all things, thus removing mystery. However good writing will recognize its limitations, and at its best take us more deeply into the mystery, not remove it.

I think you have been able to do that. Keep up your good work.

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by Charles Fines http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-947960 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:25:01 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-947960 Lisa, I envy you being able to take a physical classroom course in NT Greek. It might well provide the discipline I lack in trying to learn it from books or programs. I seem to respond more in spirit to Greek terminology than Latin. Case in point, I struggle with “Advent” as a concept which I don’t think would be as difficult if it was commonly called “Parousia”. Perhaps in the Eastern wing of the church it is.

Thanks for your very nice piece today. The main point I am taking away from it is that parousia means not only coming and arrival, which I think advent carries well enough, but parousia also means presence. If that is common knowledge, somehow you have helped me see it for the first time today. And realizing Presence may well be the essence of what centering prayer is all about.

Much seems to be made in Advent of waiting, one of the things about Advent I struggle with. It seems to me a denial of the permanent entrance of Light into the world all those many years ago. We don’t have to wait for that Light like we wait for the Solstice, it isn’t something that happens once a year, it’s available 24/7. All we have to do is realize its Presence.

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Comment on iMonk Classic: The Mood of Advent: We All Need A Savior by Debra http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/53257/comment-page-1#comment-947959 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:24:55 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53257#comment-947959 This writing is why I bookmarked this page when I found it.
The man could certainly write. The compassion in his words as he spoke his truth is what kept me coming back.
I miss him very much.

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Comment on Lisa Dye: Parousia! by Karin http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/lisa-dye-parousia/comment-page-1#comment-947956 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:34:27 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=53277#comment-947956 Deeply appreciated – thank you!

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