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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: CantateDomino</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/your-mission-resacramentalize-evangelicalism/comment-page-2#comment-507562</link>
		<dc:creator>CantateDomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might caution you, though.  Once I visited an LCMS church, I knew I could never go back to my Baptist roots. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might caution you, though.  Once I visited an LCMS church, I knew I could never go back to my Baptist roots. <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CantateDomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>CantateDomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or any LCMS or WELS Lutheran Church.  
(Don&#039;t expect to participate in the Sacrament of the Altar, though.  They have close(d) communion.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or any LCMS or WELS Lutheran Church.<br />
(Don&#8217;t expect to participate in the Sacrament of the Altar, though.  They have close(d) communion.)</p>
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		<title>By: CantateDomino</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/your-mission-resacramentalize-evangelicalism/comment-page-2#comment-507560</link>
		<dc:creator>CantateDomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a web version of Luther&#039;s Small Catechism?

http://www.bookofconcord.org/smallcatechism.php

I would suggest you skip the introduction until you&#039;ve read through the rest of the catechism at least once.  It&#039;s mostly discussion of the historical context in which Luther found the need to set down sound, biblical doctrine in a short and easy form - &quot;As the head of the family should teach them in a simple way to his household.&quot;

In most Confessional Lutheran churches today, children are still required to memorize the small catechism before confirmation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a web version of Luther&#8217;s Small Catechism?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bookofconcord.org/smallcatechism.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookofconcord.org/smallcatechism.php</a></p>
<p>I would suggest you skip the introduction until you&#8217;ve read through the rest of the catechism at least once.  It&#8217;s mostly discussion of the historical context in which Luther found the need to set down sound, biblical doctrine in a short and easy form &#8211; &#8220;As the head of the family should teach them in a simple way to his household.&#8221;</p>
<p>In most Confessional Lutheran churches today, children are still required to memorize the small catechism before confirmation.</p>
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		<title>By: Christiane/L's</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiane/L's</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do read Scripture aloud in my Church also.  
It was meant to be heard.   
Then taken into the heart.
Then lived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do read Scripture aloud in my Church also.<br />
It was meant to be heard.<br />
Then taken into the heart.<br />
Then lived.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sacraments AND Word. Catholics need real preaching. Protestants need real attention to sacraments. Plain an simple. Both confessions need what they need urgently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sacraments AND Word. Catholics need real preaching. Protestants need real attention to sacraments. Plain an simple. Both confessions need what they need urgently.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. Your experience is wanting. Go to any Anglican Rite service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. Your experience is wanting. Go to any Anglican Rite service.</p>
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		<title>By: Evangelicals Eating Jesus &#171; the pocket scroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evangelicals Eating Jesus &#171; the pocket scroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eating&#160;Jesus  The Internet Monk recently wrote an excellent post entitled, &#8220;Your Mission: &#8216;Resacramentalize Evangelicalism.&#8217;&#8220;Â  Being raised Anglican, I&#8217;m not the primary audience of his post.Â  In it, he makes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eating&nbsp;Jesus  The Internet Monk recently wrote an excellent post entitled, &#8220;Your Mission: &#8216;Resacramentalize Evangelicalism.&#8217;&#8220;Â  Being raised Anglican, I&#8217;m not the primary audience of his post.Â  In it, he makes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Everyone,

I realize I am coming in on the middle of this conversation but I must say I agree with everything and also disagree with everything.

The one thing I know is that no church or religion is perfect in anyway if humans are in charge.  No matter how spirit filled, evangelical or sacramental any one is, if they are human and considered to be mankind we will never get it right..  We are flawed everyone of us.

But if you read the word of God he uses words like friend, relationship.  The didciples gave themsleve to meet in the courts everyday, breaking bread together, communing with one anothe and studied the teaching and doctrines of the Apostles.

My understanding from Isaih is that obedience is better than sacrifice and it is a matter of a broken heart and a contrite spirit that God comes to any one.  Personal relationship with Jesus is the only thing they ask and to be worshiped and glorified however it may fit.

We all have gifts and talents put in us be the creator his self and he is expecting each one of us to use them for his glory and to lift up the son.  Religion really has no place in what kind of relationship you have with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

The Spirit was the gift Jesus sent to us to guide us in all truth and to know the will of God and how he would have us worship him.  We all have different personalities and I think God realizes that since he created us.

I am evangelical but I have a strong reverence awe and honor for God and his house of worship.  He has called us to mingle and meet with fellow christians regardless of the temporal things here on earth.  Some day I want to dance like David danced before God.  One day I want to sing praise of worship to God just as the Psalmist did.

I am only voicing my opinion and concern for what the Bible says we should do and how we should act and raise the banner of God as the standard we all stand on.

If you love God have faith and believe that Jesus is his son then trust him to lead you to the places HE has consecrated and made the sacrament viable.  It is not the man made things we shuld be worrying about but it&#039;s the spiritual everlasting and eternal things we should be focusing on.  And yes if you read your bible it will tell you the do&#039;s and don&#039;ts; and that within itself is a sacrement consecrated by God through his Holy Spirit, Son and his Holy Word.

Personal relationship, Do you know Jesus?  Have you been saved through grace and the santification of the Holy Spirit.  You can&#039;t begin to understand until you have made the leap into faith through grace.  No ritual sacrement or whatever will ever make sense to anyone unless they first love God and have been saved through grace by faith.  Then they have the leading of the Holy Spirit that will guide them into alllll truth concerning the things of God.

Thank for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Everyone,</p>
<p>I realize I am coming in on the middle of this conversation but I must say I agree with everything and also disagree with everything.</p>
<p>The one thing I know is that no church or religion is perfect in anyway if humans are in charge.  No matter how spirit filled, evangelical or sacramental any one is, if they are human and considered to be mankind we will never get it right..  We are flawed everyone of us.</p>
<p>But if you read the word of God he uses words like friend, relationship.  The didciples gave themsleve to meet in the courts everyday, breaking bread together, communing with one anothe and studied the teaching and doctrines of the Apostles.</p>
<p>My understanding from Isaih is that obedience is better than sacrifice and it is a matter of a broken heart and a contrite spirit that God comes to any one.  Personal relationship with Jesus is the only thing they ask and to be worshiped and glorified however it may fit.</p>
<p>We all have gifts and talents put in us be the creator his self and he is expecting each one of us to use them for his glory and to lift up the son.  Religion really has no place in what kind of relationship you have with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>The Spirit was the gift Jesus sent to us to guide us in all truth and to know the will of God and how he would have us worship him.  We all have different personalities and I think God realizes that since he created us.</p>
<p>I am evangelical but I have a strong reverence awe and honor for God and his house of worship.  He has called us to mingle and meet with fellow christians regardless of the temporal things here on earth.  Some day I want to dance like David danced before God.  One day I want to sing praise of worship to God just as the Psalmist did.</p>
<p>I am only voicing my opinion and concern for what the Bible says we should do and how we should act and raise the banner of God as the standard we all stand on.</p>
<p>If you love God have faith and believe that Jesus is his son then trust him to lead you to the places HE has consecrated and made the sacrament viable.  It is not the man made things we shuld be worrying about but it&#8217;s the spiritual everlasting and eternal things we should be focusing on.  And yes if you read your bible it will tell you the do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts; and that within itself is a sacrement consecrated by God through his Holy Spirit, Son and his Holy Word.</p>
<p>Personal relationship, Do you know Jesus?  Have you been saved through grace and the santification of the Holy Spirit.  You can&#8217;t begin to understand until you have made the leap into faith through grace.  No ritual sacrement or whatever will ever make sense to anyone unless they first love God and have been saved through grace by faith.  Then they have the leading of the Holy Spirit that will guide them into alllll truth concerning the things of God.</p>
<p>Thank for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: denise and wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>denise and wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post, It is why I read and feel continually edified by your site. Just wondering if anyone here can relate these thoughts to 1Kings 18:21 &quot;How long halt ye between two opinions&quot;. As an Evangelical Christian in a Pentecostal Fellowship Church who grew up RC, I&#039;ve seen many on both sides who treat the other as the so-called Baal worshippers. RC &quot; improper headship&quot;, Evangelicals &quot;No discipleship&quot;.  My heart has grieved for both sides and honestly I felt a real twinge in my soul when you stated so clearly what I&#039;ve felt so personally for years: &quot;Evangelicals now tend to view the reformation churches as â€œassumingâ€ all kinds of things that may not be true. Listen to a modern evangelical describe whatâ€™s wrong with mainline churches: they are â€œdead.â€ The people are unconverted. God isnâ€™t present. Itâ€™s all empty ritual. They need revival and a true visitation of the Spirit. This is evangelicalism evaluating its parent and finding her seriously wanting. Like all adolescents, we can hope for improvement with maturity.&quot;  
But beyond that, one problem I personally see with the Evangelicals I know is they don&#039;t see the RC as our parents in christ, even if long lost, but do we truly think this to be true? Are they not our long lost brother&#039;s in Christ? I couldn&#039;t possibly articulate these thoughts as well as most on this site, but I&#039;m trying my best to grow and learn in Christ, excuse my lack of clarity but I comment only so that I can learn to present the Gospel in these confusing times more plainly (neither beautiful or ugly), a differant subject altogether.  God Bless and Thank You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post, It is why I read and feel continually edified by your site. Just wondering if anyone here can relate these thoughts to 1Kings 18:21 &#8220;How long halt ye between two opinions&#8221;. As an Evangelical Christian in a Pentecostal Fellowship Church who grew up RC, I&#8217;ve seen many on both sides who treat the other as the so-called Baal worshippers. RC &#8221; improper headship&#8221;, Evangelicals &#8220;No discipleship&#8221;.  My heart has grieved for both sides and honestly I felt a real twinge in my soul when you stated so clearly what I&#8217;ve felt so personally for years: &#8220;Evangelicals now tend to view the reformation churches as â€œassumingâ€ all kinds of things that may not be true. Listen to a modern evangelical describe whatâ€™s wrong with mainline churches: they are â€œdead.â€ The people are unconverted. God isnâ€™t present. Itâ€™s all empty ritual. They need revival and a true visitation of the Spirit. This is evangelicalism evaluating its parent and finding her seriously wanting. Like all adolescents, we can hope for improvement with maturity.&#8221;<br />
But beyond that, one problem I personally see with the Evangelicals I know is they don&#8217;t see the RC as our parents in christ, even if long lost, but do we truly think this to be true? Are they not our long lost brother&#8217;s in Christ? I couldn&#8217;t possibly articulate these thoughts as well as most on this site, but I&#8217;m trying my best to grow and learn in Christ, excuse my lack of clarity but I comment only so that I can learn to present the Gospel in these confusing times more plainly (neither beautiful or ugly), a differant subject altogether.  God Bless and Thank You.</p>
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		<title>By: Confession: I am sometimes a semanticist &#124; Scripture Zealot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confession: I am sometimes a semanticist &#124; Scripture Zealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then let me take you to Castle of Nutshells where Damian writes a post titled Re-sacramentalising, worship, and God in experience which comments on a post by Internet Monk titled Resacramentalising Evangelicalism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Then let me take you to Castle of Nutshells where Damian writes a post titled Re-sacramentalising, worship, and God in experience which comments on a post by Internet Monk titled Resacramentalising Evangelicalism. [...]</p>
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