Banning abortion is not “big-conservative government”, it’s being against a government that arbitrarily decides that a portion of its population are not human and are thus free to be killed as a right.

No one has the right to an abortion any more than anyone has the right to a slave. Funny that you don’t mind having that “right” taken away from you. You do not have a civil liberty to drive a scalpel into the brainstem of your child or burn them to death with chemicals. This is not about your “right” to kill someone, it’s about the rights of the child that you have taken away. As for your slippery slope accusation, I’d suggest you leave your strawmen in Oz where they belong.

In the rare event that a mother’s life is in danger, it is a tragedy that one life has to be sacrificed for another, similar to a fireman who has to choose between two people in a burning building. Again, there is the fallacious assumption that being against abortion means to allow a mother to die. I’ve never met a single pro-lifer who was against the unfortunate use of abortion in such a case, but it is not to be done lightly.

Cipher, I don’t know what world you live in, but mine’s pretty average, and in my life I’ve heard all of that and more from average everyday Conservative Christians JUST THIS WEEK.

Bomb innocents (they aren’t innocent), ban gayness (they’re not whole people), send the poor back to their own countries (after the harvest), and some bonus secondhand Rush snark too; there are no good guys in this rhetoric thing, but its common experience that there’s plenty of wrong and evil going around among the conservative Christian Righteous Folks.

I’m “anti-abortion” but if my wife’s life were in danger, I don’t want conservative Christians defining to she and I what God’s will is for our family. She does have a small say in her own life, regardless of what she is labeled.

That is not “pro-abortion.” That is “anti-big-conservative-government.”

Because once the “pro-abortion” civil liberties are gone, conservatives will then start to work on those who are “pro-birth control.” And “pro-gay.”

Let’s look at John Calvin; he’s a champion of the Reformation and regarded on all accounts to be “theologically correct” yet his actions show that he was quite authoritarian and even “graceless” in his actions. Let’s not forget forget how strict 16th century Geneva was and how they burned an anti-Trinitarian on the stake.

Having right theology doesn’t mean you will have the right Christian ethics. I thought the fruits of the spirit were love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control, not believing in the correct theological bullet points.

Also, I suggest you read up on your Catholic theology.