Ah, this one is great! I voted Bush in the election, but I was volunteering on a former professor’s political campaign. This guy is liberal, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage and all that. However, the rest of his platform sounded good to me, so I had no guilt in helping him out. My uber-conservative friends freaked out…*before* I told them anything about his positions on anything. Someone said, “How can you help a Democrat?” It’s like they believe the Dems are responsible for all the problems in the world.

Pro-Traditional Marriage/Pro-Gay Marriage

I’m not going to turn gay if gay marriage is legalized, so I don’t see what the problem is. People talk about how it is bad for kids and whatnot, but there really haven’t been a whole lot of studies in that area.

Homosexuality as choice/Homosexuality as human nature

God is not less sovereign if the Fall causes us to be born corrupted… oh wait, I’m pretty sure most Christians believe we are born sinful. If a homosexual becomes a Christian, s/he has to do what the rest of us (attempt to) do: resist temptation. Hereditary alcoholism is still alcoholism, and socialized racism is still racism.

Christian entertainment/Secular entertainment

There was a youth group retreat many years ago, featuring a preacher who came in and did all sorts of stupid stuff. One claim he made was that secular music will “drag your soul down to the darkest pit of hell.” Needless to say, my impressionable young self went through a “no secular music” phase. Other Christians did the guilt thing, and I went through a few of those phases before I realized that non-Christians make the movies I watch, the games I play, and the backs of cereal boxes that I read, and none of those other things has succeeded in turning me into a Satanist… yet?

But there are some liberals who see the New York Times as their friend (they haven’t got the word yet) and probably no conservatives who feel that way, and I’d defend them from rightwing attacks most of the time, so I guess they’d fall more onto the left side. But they’re pretty unpopular with everyone these days.

BTW, interesting how you put the left stuff in the right column and the right stuff in the left column. In my mind’s eye, that’s how I do it, but I’m right-handed and maybe that’s natural for a lefty to do it that way.

I think you speak for a majority of people who have found that they don’t fit with the “team”. I was once on a team…the right-wing, conservative, innerant, christian world-view, Greg Koukl wannabe…and all homosexuals should be fired from their jobs because, by nature, they are immoral.

I’ve left the team. And I’ve found it liberating.

Unfortunately…most people can’t tell the players without labels because they refuse to take the time to know the players or the issues. And most people are only comfortable when they can identify and pigeon-hole everyone with a label/name.

Keep up the good work and it’s refreshing to find that I’m not the only non-team player…

Eric the Lurker from Redding

I’m 39 years old and this past November was the first time in my life I didn’t vote in a presidential election. I’m quite disappointed with some things President Bush hasn’t done, and in the absence of a better alternative, I stayed home. It may not have been the responsible thing to do, but I guess I just wanted to prove to myself (and family & friends) that I don’t take marching orders from the likes of Jim Dobson. Nonetheless, I still regularly pray for Bush in the same way I prayed almost daily for President Clinton and his administration. Prayer isn’t the least we can do – it’s the most we can do.

Like you I think people should be free to live out their lives as they wish without government interference, as long as others’ rights aren’t trampled in the process. Civil unions? They don’t scare me! I think God would want each of us to be free to make these choices. In the end it probably makes His job of separating the sheep from the goats a bit easier.

On the inerrancy thing, the first thing that came to mind when I read all the back-and-forth was 2 Timothy 2:23 about “stupid arguments” (NIV) The Joel Osteen thing proved we have more than enough on our plates without turning on each other over matters that, quite frankly, are of little consequence. We have the Bible and that’s not likely to change. However it got here, it got here and we’re gonna use it ’til the end.

Again, thanks for this forum as well as the BHT.

I am not saying that all people who do fit into categories don’t think, but I have been around a lot of people who do and think what they do simply because that is what someone down the line told them to think or because they are following the same trend everyone else is-which, to me, doesn’t mean a whole lot because what are these people going to do when the trends change or when things don’t go exactly as they were told they would?

I must be for Bush, watch Fox, accept inerrancy, home school, listen to Rush, go to a PDC church, read the ESV, oppose all compromise on social issues, listen to Christian entertianment…..

GACK!!!

Steve

I don’t even know which of these to rant on….too many good ones.

How about a new one,

People who think………….people who don’t think

Ahh, baseball or football….that’s tough, I’m from the Boston area…Red Sox or Patriots….can’t decide.