Comments on: Which One of Us Is Lost or Confused? http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:21:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: iMonk http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-2#comment-512524 iMonk Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:39:41 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512524 Thanks to all who participated. This comment thread is closed. Thanks to all who participated. This comment thread is closed.

]]> By: iMonk http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512523 iMonk Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:39:19 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512523 She's from Ethiopia. We're in Ky. She’s from Ethiopia. We’re in Ky.

]]> By: Jen http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512520 Jen Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:17:41 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512520 I just started breezing through the comments and I now see how useless my suggestion was. Some people just operate with a completely different reality than the rest of us and it can't be helped. Just keep speaking the Word of God to her. She can't argue with that. I'm one of those "the Holy Spirit works through means" folks, so I believe scripture (and of course prayer) is the only option here. I just started breezing through the comments and I now see how useless my suggestion was.

Some people just operate with a completely different reality than the rest of us and it can’t be helped. Just keep speaking the Word of God to her. She can’t argue with that. I’m one of those “the Holy Spirit works through means” folks, so I believe scripture (and of course prayer) is the only option here.

]]> By: Jen http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512519 Jen Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:10:12 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512519 I haven't read the other comments. Here's what I'd suggest. Ask her for her priests name. Invite him and her parents to a little conference with you. Explain that you want to better appreciate your students tradition, and that you don't wish to convert her. Point out that you recognize her as a Baptised sister (even if she doesn't regard you or the rest of the school as Christians. Express your concern about her understanding of the gospel - direct it to the priest. That way you can address the issue, but she won't feel like she's a youth going up against the teacher alone. She will have her "back up" with her at your invite. Allow the priest to explain the gospel to her. Allow him to explain fasting and Mary to her. Get your 2¢ in, and steer the conversation. It could be a good thing for everybody. :) I haven’t read the other comments. Here’s what I’d suggest. Ask her for her priests name. Invite him and her parents to a little conference with you. Explain that you want to better appreciate your students tradition, and that you don’t wish to convert her. Point out that you recognize her as a Baptised sister (even if she doesn’t regard you or the rest of the school as Christians. Express your concern about her understanding of the gospel – direct it to the priest. That way you can address the issue, but she won’t feel like she’s a youth going up against the teacher alone. She will have her “back up” with her at your invite. Allow the priest to explain the gospel to her. Allow him to explain fasting and Mary to her. Get your 2¢ in, and steer the conversation. It could be a good thing for everybody. :)

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512513 Headless Unicorn Guy Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:28:41 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512513 <i>...unless reading Jack Chick and doing the opposite is their preferred method of learning the Faith. </i> I've encountered people who are that contrary, just not in a religious context. …unless reading Jack Chick and doing the opposite is their preferred method of learning the Faith.

I’ve encountered people who are that contrary, just not in a religious context.

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512512 Headless Unicorn Guy Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:27:40 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512512 Like I said above, she's like a funhouse mirror held up to a LOT of Evangelicals. Like I said above, she’s like a funhouse mirror held up to a LOT of Evangelicals.

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512511 Headless Unicorn Guy Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:20:57 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512511 <i>She’s behaving as if its the will of God for her to convert our school to EthO.</i> IMonk, this sounds so much like a funhouse mirror of the clueless "WITNESS! WITNESS! WITNESS!" behavior you see so much among Evangelicals out of their element.... She’s behaving as if its the will of God for her to convert our school to EthO.

IMonk, this sounds so much like a funhouse mirror of the clueless “WITNESS! WITNESS! WITNESS!” behavior you see so much among Evangelicals out of their element….

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512508 Headless Unicorn Guy Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:17:38 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512508 From what she's saying, "an ancient church" which has drifted a bit onto a tangent. Especially her personal brand of it. From what she’s saying, “an ancient church” which has drifted a bit onto a tangent. Especially her personal brand of it.

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512507 Headless Unicorn Guy Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:14:56 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512507 <i>Do you think she understands that she’s insisting on a set of beliefs or emphases that no other corporate group of Christians recognizes? (If that’s in fact true.)</i> If true, she may have walled herself off behind the event horizon of "I Am The Only True Faithful; every other 'Christian' is a HERETIC!' She definitely has some weird folk doctrines, apparently even by Ethiopian Orthodox/Coptic standards. Question is, has she joined the Dwarfs in the Stable who Won't Be Taken In? Because when you get to that point, there's usually no way back out. Do you think she understands that she’s insisting on a set of beliefs or emphases that no other corporate group of Christians recognizes? (If that’s in fact true.)

If true, she may have walled herself off behind the event horizon of “I Am The Only True Faithful; every other ‘Christian’ is a HERETIC!’ She definitely has some weird folk doctrines, apparently even by Ethiopian Orthodox/Coptic standards. Question is, has she joined the Dwarfs in the Stable who Won’t Be Taken In? Because when you get to that point, there’s usually no way back out.

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/which-one-of-us-is-lost-or-confused/comment-page-1#comment-512506 Headless Unicorn Guy Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:11:42 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4582#comment-512506 That sounds too much like the Father-Mother-Son triads of gods you got all over Ancient Egypt. That sounds too much like the Father-Mother-Son triads of gods you got all over Ancient Egypt.

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