Comments on: Two of the Coolest Guys I Met At Cornerstone: Soong-Chan Rah and Richard Twiss + Some Other Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:44:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Marek http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-506921 Marek Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:15:29 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-506921 greetings, both RIchard's and Soong's seminars are now online at Cornerstonefestival.com or in iTunes. marek greetings,
both RIchard’s and Soong’s seminars are now online at Cornerstonefestival.com or in iTunes.
marek

]]> By: JoanieD http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505964 JoanieD Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:58:44 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505964 MIchael, I am reposting my message, (modified probably) because I think it didn't take it the first time. As an "aside" about how to refer to the people who were living on what is now the North American continent before Europeans came here.... In Maine we have a number of Native American nations. Here is one: http://www.penobscotnation.org/ You can see from there that they refer to themselves as Indians at times, and their home is called Indian Island. But I do tend to call them "The Penobscots." From this page: http://www.infoplease.com/spot/aihmterms.html some of the things written there include: "Russell Means, the Lakota activist and founder of the American Indian Movement (AIM), has strongly rejected Native American in favor of Indian." "A 1995 Census Bureau Survey of preferences for racial and ethnic terminology (there is no more recent survey) indicated that 49% of Native people preferred being called American Indian, 37% preferred Native American, 3.6% preferred "some other term," and 5% had no preference." "As Christina Berry, a Cherokee writer and producer of the website All Things Cherokee, counsels: 'In the end, the term you choose to use (as an Indian or non-Indian) is your own personal choice. Very few Indians that I know care either way. The recommended method is to refer to a person by their tribe, if that information is known.' " MIchael, I am reposting my message, (modified probably) because I think it didn’t take it the first time.

As an “aside” about how to refer to the people who were living on what is now the North American continent before Europeans came here….

In Maine we have a number of Native American nations. Here is one: http://www.penobscotnation.org/
You can see from there that they refer to themselves as Indians at times, and their home is called Indian Island. But I do tend to call them “The Penobscots.”

From this page:
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/aihmterms.html
some of the things written there include:
“Russell Means, the Lakota activist and founder of the American Indian Movement (AIM), has strongly rejected Native American in favor of Indian.”

“A 1995 Census Bureau Survey of preferences for racial and ethnic terminology (there is no more recent survey) indicated that 49% of Native people preferred being called American Indian, 37% preferred Native American, 3.6% preferred “some other term,” and 5% had no preference.”

“As Christina Berry, a Cherokee writer and producer of the website All Things Cherokee, counsels: ‘In the end, the term you choose to use (as an Indian or non-Indian) is your own personal choice. Very few Indians that I know care either way. The recommended method is to refer to a person by their tribe, if that information is known.’ “

]]> By: greg r http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505953 greg r Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:08:07 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505953 how 'bout a clown suit ????? that's colorful.... how ’bout a clown suit ????? that’s colorful….

]]> By: iMonk http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505932 iMonk Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:26:59 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505932 CEC isn't what I want to be known for. Post-evangelicalism is more what I'm about. Nothing here deals with what the book is going to be about. But it's a good interview (just colorize me :-) CEC isn’t what I want to be known for. Post-evangelicalism is more what I’m about. Nothing here deals with what the book is going to be about. But it’s a good interview (just colorize me :-)

]]> By: greg r http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505931 greg r Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:17:49 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505931 Michael: did you feel this interview did a good job capturing what I-Monk is all about ?? Just wondering if this would be a good reference point to direct to interested others, or if there's a different interview out there that's better. I thot it was great, Soong Chan does a great "Phil Russert". Blessings Greg R Michael: did you feel this interview did a good job capturing what I-Monk is all about ?? Just wondering if this would be a good reference point to direct to interested others, or if there’s a different interview out there that’s better. I thot it was great, Soong Chan does a great “Phil Russert”.

Blessings
Greg R

]]> By: greg r http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505928 greg r Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:03:07 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505928 Love the quote from Richard that his studies are for his "childrens' children". Something about that puts a saner light on things academic. Great interview, he seems like someone I'd love to have over , break bread and pick his native indian brain on ministry and evangelism. Love the quote from Richard that his studies are for his “childrens’ children”. Something about that puts a saner light on things academic. Great interview, he seems like someone I’d love to have over , break bread and pick his native indian brain on ministry and evangelism.

]]> By: JoanieD http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505926 JoanieD Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:53:34 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505926 Yes, Michael, I would guess that not all Native Americans want to be called "Indians." I was a little surprised when she said that, but then I heard the same from some other folks. Does RIchard prefer "First Nations" or some other term? Thanks. Yes, Michael, I would guess that not all Native Americans want to be called “Indians.” I was a little surprised when she said that, but then I heard the same from some other folks. Does RIchard prefer “First Nations” or some other term? Thanks.

]]> By: Ben Sternke http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505916 Ben Sternke Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:26:43 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505916 I met Richard Twiss a few years ago and was really impressed with the work he is doing. I think it's a "case study" that vividly illustrates many of the principles that are being talked about in the missional church. I met Richard Twiss a few years ago and was really impressed with the work he is doing. I think it’s a “case study” that vividly illustrates many of the principles that are being talked about in the missional church.

]]> By: Christiane/L's http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505915 Christiane/L's Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:14:17 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505915 Hi Scott, I am a fan of the Russian Orthodox Church. Actually, I am the god-daughter of a woman of Ukrainian descent who is Catholic, not Orthodox, but whose roots are in the Eastern Traditions. I believe you completely. There is a humility about the Orthodox, and a spirituality that emphasizes the Divinity of Christ. From this deep Christian humility, the Orthodox would be able to 'handle' introducing Christ into a native culture with respect for the heritage of the converts. They would have had the spiritual 'gravitas' to do this without the hubris of cultural superiority. Thanks for sharing this. Hi Scott,

I am a fan of the Russian Orthodox Church. Actually, I am the god-daughter of a woman of Ukrainian descent who is Catholic, not Orthodox, but whose roots are in the Eastern Traditions.

I believe you completely. There is a humility about the Orthodox, and a spirituality that emphasizes the Divinity of Christ. From this deep Christian humility, the Orthodox would be able to ‘handle’ introducing Christ into a native culture with respect for the heritage of the converts. They would have had the spiritual ‘gravitas’ to do this without the hubris of cultural superiority. Thanks for sharing this.

]]> By: Dave138 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/two-of-the-coolest-guys-i-met-at-cornerstone-soong-chan-rah-and-richard-twiss-some-other-guy/comment-page-1#comment-505914 Dave138 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:13:38 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=4053#comment-505914 Glad you met so many interesting people at Cornerstone! I always wanted to go, but never got the chance. Being from Indiana, my church youth group was able to visit JPUSA when I was in high school. The sincerity of those folks helped me to not totally give up on Christianity at a time when I was sorely tempted to. Now I want to get out my old Crashdog CDs. Lol. Glad you met so many interesting people at Cornerstone! I always wanted to go, but never got the chance. Being from Indiana, my church youth group was able to visit JPUSA when I was in high school. The sincerity of those folks helped me to not totally give up on Christianity at a time when I was sorely tempted to.

Now I want to get out my old Crashdog CDs. Lol.

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