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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Onward, Forward, Toward...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onward, Forward, Toward...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 23:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Quote of The Week...&lt;/strong&gt;

Quote of The Week

Iâ€™m a new covenant Christian. NONE of this stuff is necessary. It can get out of hand, both in practice and in the money spent on them.

Michael Spencer (Internet Monk) from Thoughts on â€œGearâ€ (3) in reference to t...</description>
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<p>Quote of The Week</p>
<p>Iâ€™m a new covenant Christian. NONE of this stuff is necessary. It can get out of hand, both in practice and in the money spent on them.</p>
<p>Michael Spencer (Internet Monk) from Thoughts on â€œGearâ€ (3) in reference to t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ariah</title>
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		<dc:creator>ariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure there is a blog or photo gallery of some kind already out there with this stuff. anyone have a link? If not I&#039;m totally going to make one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure there is a blog or photo gallery of some kind already out there with this stuff. anyone have a link? If not I&#8217;m totally going to make one.</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/thoughts-on-gear-3/comment-page-2#comment-424548</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have one of those Spurgeon busts in my study. When I bend its head back, and push the button inside its neck, a bookshelf slides back to reveal the Batpoles.&lt;/i&gt; -- Kerry

HOLY SOMETHINGOROTHER, BATMAN!

That&#039;s one of the best lines I&#039;ve seen on this thread!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have one of those Spurgeon busts in my study. When I bend its head back, and push the button inside its neck, a bookshelf slides back to reveal the Batpoles.</i> &#8212; Kerry</p>
<p>HOLY SOMETHINGOROTHER, BATMAN!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the best lines I&#8217;ve seen on this thread!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post and quite accurate. I grew up in a very protestant setting (missionary kid). I remember the glow-in-the-dark cross, the sort of cheesy print of Jesus watching over a sailor at the helm on rough seas, and much other gear. Still have crosses, a sketch of Jesus laughing, Sillhouettes of dancers outlined by Hebrew texts from the OT. Didn&#039;t and don&#039;t worship any of it; oddly and by God&#039;s grace, even the cheezy stuff reminded us and redirected our attention to things eternal and to God&#039;s grace.

&lt;i&gt;I’ve taken some heat over the label gnostic, but many evangelicals do resemble gnostics in their rejection of the place of matter in redemption. They apparently want a matterless heaven and a matterless Kingdom&lt;/i&gt;

I hear you. We left a church once because the pastor started preaching that believers&#039; physical bodies are not only not saved, but are THE source of all one&#039;s sins and woes; whereas the soul/spirit/mind is somhow redeemed and immune and perfected. There was much confusion about Paul&#039;s use of the term &quot;flesh&quot; and &quot;body&quot;. The pastor was not seminary-trained and really had no knowledge of gnosticism or the fact that he was headed that way, and refused to be reasoned with.

As C.S. Lewis wrote: God likes matter; He created it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post and quite accurate. I grew up in a very protestant setting (missionary kid). I remember the glow-in-the-dark cross, the sort of cheesy print of Jesus watching over a sailor at the helm on rough seas, and much other gear. Still have crosses, a sketch of Jesus laughing, Sillhouettes of dancers outlined by Hebrew texts from the OT. Didn&#8217;t and don&#8217;t worship any of it; oddly and by God&#8217;s grace, even the cheezy stuff reminded us and redirected our attention to things eternal and to God&#8217;s grace.</p>
<p><i>I’ve taken some heat over the label gnostic, but many evangelicals do resemble gnostics in their rejection of the place of matter in redemption. They apparently want a matterless heaven and a matterless Kingdom</i></p>
<p>I hear you. We left a church once because the pastor started preaching that believers&#8217; physical bodies are not only not saved, but are THE source of all one&#8217;s sins and woes; whereas the soul/spirit/mind is somhow redeemed and immune and perfected. There was much confusion about Paul&#8217;s use of the term &#8220;flesh&#8221; and &#8220;body&#8221;. The pastor was not seminary-trained and really had no knowledge of gnosticism or the fact that he was headed that way, and refused to be reasoned with.</p>
<p>As C.S. Lewis wrote: God likes matter; He created it.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a green ceramic cross hanging above the fireplace, instantly visible from anyone who comes in the front door. It&#039;s placed there to protect me and my household, and has done so many times.*


*Because my Mother in Law gave it to us, and if she doesn&#039;t see it, we&#039;ll be in mortal danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a green ceramic cross hanging above the fireplace, instantly visible from anyone who comes in the front door. It&#8217;s placed there to protect me and my household, and has done so many times.*</p>
<p>*Because my Mother in Law gave it to us, and if she doesn&#8217;t see it, we&#8217;ll be in mortal danger.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iMonk, thanks for the clarification. I am jumpy. I think the full scriptural phrase is &quot;dead in Christ&quot; which, ergo (by Christ&#039;s resurrection), means &quot;alive in Christ.&quot; People who are dead in Christ are still alive. I thought all of Christian theology could still agree on that one (I don&#039;t count JW into Christian theology).

To concur with GratefulForGraces, show me the Scripture which refers to Jesus as &quot;God.&quot; Not just from God or the Son of God, but just &quot;God.&quot; It does exist, but it is rather obscure. Arians has a field day dismissing it as relevant. I&#039;m just sayin&#039;....

To all those on the Gregorian calendar, including the Finnish, have a blessed Holy Week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iMonk, thanks for the clarification. I am jumpy. I think the full scriptural phrase is &#8220;dead in Christ&#8221; which, ergo (by Christ&#8217;s resurrection), means &#8220;alive in Christ.&#8221; People who are dead in Christ are still alive. I thought all of Christian theology could still agree on that one (I don&#8217;t count JW into Christian theology).</p>
<p>To concur with GratefulForGraces, show me the Scripture which refers to Jesus as &#8220;God.&#8221; Not just from God or the Son of God, but just &#8220;God.&#8221; It does exist, but it is rather obscure. Arians has a field day dismissing it as relevant. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
<p>To all those on the Gregorian calendar, including the Finnish, have a blessed Holy Week.</p>
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		<title>By: GratefulForGraces</title>
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		<dc:creator>GratefulForGraces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, of course.  However, the point I was trying to make (perhaps clumsily) is that there is no specific verse saying, &quot;The one God exists in three Persons and one substance, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which we call the Holy Trinity.&quot;  

Many doctrines developed as time went on, including that of the Trinity and that of praying to/for the dead.  And where is it in Scripture that God has to say something more than once for it to be true?

Anyway, when you publish that book, I&#039;ll add it to my gear! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, of course.  However, the point I was trying to make (perhaps clumsily) is that there is no specific verse saying, &#8220;The one God exists in three Persons and one substance, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which we call the Holy Trinity.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Many doctrines developed as time went on, including that of the Trinity and that of praying to/for the dead.  And where is it in Scripture that God has to say something more than once for it to be true?</p>
<p>Anyway, when you publish that book, I&#8217;ll add it to my gear! <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: iMonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a verse with Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all referenced as God?

Gal 4:6 And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 

I&#039;ve got several of those. Don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a verse with Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all referenced as God?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Gal+4%3A6" class="bibleref" title="ESV Gal 4:6">Gal 4:6</a> And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got several of those. Don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Anna A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

   Not all of us use gear overtly.  I doubt if most of my co-workers know what I wear 24/7, because they are under my clothes.  I never wear a cross to work because I know how flawed I am.  I don&#039;t want my screw-ups to reflect back on Christ.  

And as far as the humongous amount of stuff that I have at home, people rarely see it.  I&#039;d be more willing to have guests over, but it&#039;s just not done much here.  (Or at least in the groups I run around with.  I got some very negative reactions, just mentioning doing some RCIA classes not at the parish.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>   Not all of us use gear overtly.  I doubt if most of my co-workers know what I wear 24/7, because they are under my clothes.  I never wear a cross to work because I know how flawed I am.  I don&#8217;t want my screw-ups to reflect back on Christ.  </p>
<p>And as far as the humongous amount of stuff that I have at home, people rarely see it.  I&#8217;d be more willing to have guests over, but it&#8217;s just not done much here.  (Or at least in the groups I run around with.  I got some very negative reactions, just mentioning doing some RCIA classes not at the parish.)</p>
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		<title>By: GratefulForGraces</title>
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		<dc:creator>GratefulForGraces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]GratefulforGraces:

I’ll soon be publishing my list of doctrines we all must believe based on single verses in Maccabees. :-)[/quote]

Sweet!  Or how about a doctrine like the Trinity that doesn&#039;t have a verse?  :-)

Peace back atchya,

GfG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]GratefulforGraces:</p>
<p>I’ll soon be publishing my list of doctrines we all must believe based on single verses in Maccabees. <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> [/quote]</p>
<p>Sweet!  Or how about a doctrine like the Trinity that doesn&#8217;t have a verse?  <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Peace back atchya,</p>
<p>GfG</p>
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