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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts and Review: The Unseen by Craig Wright</title>
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		<title>By: Histrion (Jay H)</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/thoughts-and-review-the-unseen-by-craig-wright/comment-page-1#comment-63291</link>
		<dc:creator>Histrion (Jay H)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, all sarcasm aside, I have a legit question, and it&#039;s something that&#039;s actually been bothering me for a while. You write:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nothing in our story tells our fellow travelers that there is a way to avoid the world. We are not better, or exempt. Even our â€œanswerâ€ is not an exemption. Our lives will be much the same: birth, death, disease, loss, loneliness, confusion, transition, questioning, trusting. When we point to the cross as the revelation of the God we believe in, we are not pointing at an escape, but at a way through and a hope that there is more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When we talk about God performing miracles as an answer to prayer, miracles that He (ostensibly) wouldn&#039;t perform for a non-believer, aren&#039;t we asserting more than a hope that there&#039;s something beyond this life? When we circulate an email around saying, &quot;Thanks to all of you for your prayers -- Uncle Steve&#039;s cancer was completely healed, and the doctors are saying there&#039;s no way that could have happened,&quot; aren&#039;t we declaring ourselves, if not totally exempt, at least in receipt of Divine Assistance that others don&#039;t receive?

I&#039;m not even talking about &quot;limos for doing God&#039;s work&quot; or the glossolalia of Pentecostals here, although both are extreme examples. I&#039;m talking about the basic question: does repentant faith in Jesus as Christ have any supernatural effect on our lives in this world, beyond motivation and a new outlook? If so, if there really is Supernatural Help on a daily basis, then why isn&#039;t our journey different from the non-believers? Or, if not, then are stories like Peter&#039;s and Paul&#039;s escapes from their persecutors in AotA misleading, or do they just not apply to us?

I hope this question doesn&#039;t seem like baiting; this is something I&#039;ve been struggling with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, all sarcasm aside, I have a legit question, and it&#8217;s something that&#8217;s actually been bothering me for a while. You write:</p>
<blockquote><p>Nothing in our story tells our fellow travelers that there is a way to avoid the world. We are not better, or exempt. Even our â€œanswerâ€ is not an exemption. Our lives will be much the same: birth, death, disease, loss, loneliness, confusion, transition, questioning, trusting. When we point to the cross as the revelation of the God we believe in, we are not pointing at an escape, but at a way through and a hope that there is more.</p></blockquote>
<p>When we talk about God performing miracles as an answer to prayer, miracles that He (ostensibly) wouldn&#8217;t perform for a non-believer, aren&#8217;t we asserting more than a hope that there&#8217;s something beyond this life? When we circulate an email around saying, &#8220;Thanks to all of you for your prayers &#8212; Uncle Steve&#8217;s cancer was completely healed, and the doctors are saying there&#8217;s no way that could have happened,&#8221; aren&#8217;t we declaring ourselves, if not totally exempt, at least in receipt of Divine Assistance that others don&#8217;t receive?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even talking about &#8220;limos for doing God&#8217;s work&#8221; or the glossolalia of Pentecostals here, although both are extreme examples. I&#8217;m talking about the basic question: does repentant faith in Jesus as Christ have any supernatural effect on our lives in this world, beyond motivation and a new outlook? If so, if there really is Supernatural Help on a daily basis, then why isn&#8217;t our journey different from the non-believers? Or, if not, then are stories like Peter&#8217;s and Paul&#8217;s escapes from their persecutors in AotA misleading, or do they just not apply to us?</p>
<p>I hope this question doesn&#8217;t seem like baiting; this is something I&#8217;ve been struggling with.</p>
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		<title>By: Histrion (Jay H)</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/thoughts-and-review-the-unseen-by-craig-wright/comment-page-1#comment-63268</link>
		<dc:creator>Histrion (Jay H)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[more sarcasm]As if the fact that you like live theatre beyond Rogers &amp; Hammerstein isn&#039;t already enough evidence of your godless liberalism. I bet the play had swears in it.[/ok, I&#039;m really done now]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[more sarcasm]As if the fact that you like live theatre beyond Rogers &amp; Hammerstein isn&#8217;t already enough evidence of your godless liberalism. I bet the play had swears in it.[/ok, I'm really done now]</p>
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		<title>By: Histrion (Jay H)</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/thoughts-and-review-the-unseen-by-craig-wright/comment-page-1#comment-63265</link>
		<dc:creator>Histrion (Jay H)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;iMonk&lt;/b&gt; writes:&lt;i&gt;What we have left is a common humanity, and a common experience.&lt;/i&gt;

[sarcasm]Oh, come on, now. Life has nothing in common with death. The unsaved have only one mission, and that&#039;s to attempt to glorify their master, Satan, even if they don&#039;t know that&#039;s what they&#039;re doing. And we saved never ever do anything that doesn&#039;t glorify God.

Honestly, you&#039;re such a liberal.[/sarcasm]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>iMonk</b> writes:<i>What we have left is a common humanity, and a common experience.</i></p>
<p>[sarcasm]Oh, come on, now. Life has nothing in common with death. The unsaved have only one mission, and that&#8217;s to attempt to glorify their master, Satan, even if they don&#8217;t know that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re doing. And we saved never ever do anything that doesn&#8217;t glorify God.</p>
<p>Honestly, you&#8217;re such a liberal.[/sarcasm]</p>
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