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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-internet-monk-annual-halloween-rant/comment-page-2#comment-313325</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Evangelicals are more than willing to use the world to make money and accumulate stuff, but beyond that it severs all relationships in horror of dangers of mixing with the wicked and unwashed.&lt;/i&gt; -- Dumb Ox

Thus sending the message of &quot;We hate your guts, but we&#039;ll take your money!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Evangelicals are more than willing to use the world to make money and accumulate stuff, but beyond that it severs all relationships in horror of dangers of mixing with the wicked and unwashed.</i> &#8212; Dumb Ox</p>
<p>Thus sending the message of &#8220;We hate your guts, but we&#8217;ll take your money!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Carri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, how refreshing to hear that someone else shares your same feeling about a taboo subject within Christendom. As a younger Christian in the 70&#039;s, I too looked upon Halloween as evil and of the devil. But I always remembered the years of fun I had as a kid and young teenager during Halloween. But I was pumped with all the input from other christians about Halloween so I also bought into it as most of us did. Now some 34 plus years later, I am so much more relaxed about this holiday. I think it falls within the whole Christian liberty issue that Romans 14 talks about. I actually don&#039;t mind Halloween anymore. I think it&#039;s funny and down right hysterical when I see the different displays in my neighborhood. I think all this has come with maturity and not making a mountain out of a  mole hill. We Christians can be way too superstitious and read into things and not enjoy our culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, how refreshing to hear that someone else shares your same feeling about a taboo subject within Christendom. As a younger Christian in the 70&#8217;s, I too looked upon Halloween as evil and of the devil. But I always remembered the years of fun I had as a kid and young teenager during Halloween. But I was pumped with all the input from other christians about Halloween so I also bought into it as most of us did. Now some 34 plus years later, I am so much more relaxed about this holiday. I think it falls within the whole Christian liberty issue that <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Romans+14" class="bibleref" title="ESV Romans 14">Romans 14</a> talks about. I actually don&#8217;t mind Halloween anymore. I think it&#8217;s funny and down right hysterical when I see the different displays in my neighborhood. I think all this has come with maturity and not making a mountain out of a  mole hill. We Christians can be way too superstitious and read into things and not enjoy our culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernesto Tinajero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernesto Tinajero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is sad about the whole debate is that we need festivals. The Old Testament had seven festivals that culminated in the fall festival of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.life-and-faith.org/2008/10/jesus-as-source-of-life.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zukkot.&lt;/a&gt; It was a powerful and joyous experiences. Many times we forget God wants joy in our lives. Your nostalgia for Halloween reminds me that God wants us to have joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is sad about the whole debate is that we need festivals. The Old Testament had seven festivals that culminated in the fall festival of <a href="http://www.life-and-faith.org/2008/10/jesus-as-source-of-life.html" rel="nofollow">Zukkot.</a> It was a powerful and joyous experiences. Many times we forget God wants joy in our lives. Your nostalgia for Halloween reminds me that God wants us to have joy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,

   Originally,  All Hallow&#039;s Eve is to celebrate the Christians who died before us.  Some of them died some pretty gruesome deaths, like being burned as torches at Caesar&#039;s party.

I think that we should celebrate their bravery in the face of certain death.  (and hope that we never have to face that kind ourselves.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>   Originally,  All Hallow&#8217;s Eve is to celebrate the Christians who died before us.  Some of them died some pretty gruesome deaths, like being burned as torches at Caesar&#8217;s party.</p>
<p>I think that we should celebrate their bravery in the face of certain death.  (and hope that we never have to face that kind ourselves.)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erin :) Have you been talking about me?!

Halloween as celebrated by you is not Halloween as celebrated by others!

In reality, I don&#039;t even think you celebrate Halloween--you celebrate God&#039;s triumph over the laws of sin and death, and I applaud you :)

@Monk

What is worldliness, and are we to flee it? Let us never ever celebrate death, darkness, or fear!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://nathanbriscoe.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/i-hate-halloween/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is why this Christian doesn&#039;t celebrate Halloween.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erin <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Have you been talking about me?!</p>
<p>Halloween as celebrated by you is not Halloween as celebrated by others!</p>
<p>In reality, I don&#8217;t even think you celebrate Halloween&#8211;you celebrate God&#8217;s triumph over the laws of sin and death, and I applaud you <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Monk</p>
<p>What is worldliness, and are we to flee it? Let us never ever celebrate death, darkness, or fear!</p>
<p><a href="http://nathanbriscoe.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/i-hate-halloween/" rel="nofollow">Here is why this Christian doesn&#8217;t celebrate Halloween.</a></p>
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		<title>By: iMonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betsy,

Are you aware of any documented stories of children being harmed by their neighbors while trick or treating?

MS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betsy,</p>
<p>Are you aware of any documented stories of children being harmed by their neighbors while trick or treating?</p>
<p>MS</p>
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		<title>By: betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never shunned halloween cuz I thought it would pull my children into satanism but because I don&#039;t know the people in my small town well enough to take my children house to house.  I have in the past taken them to the mall or other community get togethers in place of the house to house T0rT&#039;ing.  I remember as child trick or treating but I have come to relize there are sick people out there who think nothing of harming children on just such an occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never shunned halloween cuz I thought it would pull my children into satanism but because I don&#8217;t know the people in my small town well enough to take my children house to house.  I have in the past taken them to the mall or other community get togethers in place of the house to house T0rT&#8217;ing.  I remember as child trick or treating but I have come to relize there are sick people out there who think nothing of harming children on just such an occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love iMonk&#039;s annual Halloween rants!

I hear what atruefaith.com is saying about the way it&#039;s celebrated today in our culture. And I say &quot;AMEN!!&quot; to Bob Sacremento when he says “See, this is what happens to a thing when all the Christians pull out.” As Nathan Briscoe wrote on his blog [http://nathanbriscoe.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/i-hate-halloween/], Halloween is a celebration of darkness, death, and fear. Darkness, death and fear are realities in this world and, yes, the world does seem to celebrate them in unChristian ways. But, a more appropriate response than turning the lights off and hiding in our living rooms is to ask ourselves, “What does Scripture teach us about death and evil?”, “What does Christ’s Kingdom have to offer to the world in relation to death and evil?”, and, “Is this something to celebrate?” I say, “Yes it is!” As a follower of Christ who believes in the realities of sin, evil, and satan, I choose to celebrate Halloween as an opportunity to teach important scriptural truths to my children (and remind myself, as well). To avoid it makes kids think we’re afraid of something, when the truth is that that “something” is afraid of us!
 
All Hallows’ Eve: On this day we celebrate the fact that Christ is the Light that overcomes the darkness of sin, death and evil. We observe the reality of the enemies, sin and death, and look to the promise of our resurrection and new life in Christ. We also observe the reality of evil and rejoice that God is more powerful and has already overcome it. ~ “O Death, where is your victory? O Death, where is your sting?” ~ I Corinthians 15:55

All Hallows’ (Saints’) Day: On this day we observe that God’s people are to reflect the Light of Christ in our lives. We celebrate and honor the lives and works of our spiritual forbearers–church fathers, martyrs and saints, known and unknown, living and dead–and recognize that only by the grace of God we too might have the faith to live holy lives as Christ commands. ~ “Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith.” ~Heb. 13:7~

All Souls’ Day: On this day we observe that, God’s people are called to be lampstands, sharing the Light of Christ in both word and deed with those in the world who are still walking in darkness. We remember all souls living by proclaiming the Kingdom of God and working to bring peace into our world, to establish justice among us, to lift the burdens of those who are oppressed, to care for the sick, and to assist the poor. ~ “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.” ~ Matthew 5:16 ~

It is a wonderful opportunity of witness if we can craft our decorations to emphasize these truths, as well. I have done this and my daughter loves it. Who would have thought reapers and bible verses could go together?! Also, from a spiritual perspective, I created liturgies for our family to use to worship together on each of the three days, discussing the themes mentioned above. We listen to Christian &quot;Halloween&quot; music (Selah&#039;s &quot;Ain&#039;t No Grave&quot; and &quot;All My Sins (Be Washed Away)&quot; are my newest favorites, but I have a huge list), and we read about the saints. So, I have no qualm with Believers who choose not to celebrate, and understand and respect their reasons for not doing so. But, it is not the only appropriate Christian response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love iMonk&#8217;s annual Halloween rants!</p>
<p>I hear what atruefaith.com is saying about the way it&#8217;s celebrated today in our culture. And I say &#8220;AMEN!!&#8221; to Bob Sacremento when he says “See, this is what happens to a thing when all the Christians pull out.” As Nathan Briscoe wrote on his blog [http://nathanbriscoe.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/i-hate-halloween/], Halloween is a celebration of darkness, death, and fear. Darkness, death and fear are realities in this world and, yes, the world does seem to celebrate them in unChristian ways. But, a more appropriate response than turning the lights off and hiding in our living rooms is to ask ourselves, “What does Scripture teach us about death and evil?”, “What does Christ’s Kingdom have to offer to the world in relation to death and evil?”, and, “Is this something to celebrate?” I say, “Yes it is!” As a follower of Christ who believes in the realities of sin, evil, and satan, I choose to celebrate Halloween as an opportunity to teach important scriptural truths to my children (and remind myself, as well). To avoid it makes kids think we’re afraid of something, when the truth is that that “something” is afraid of us!</p>
<p>All Hallows’ Eve: On this day we celebrate the fact that Christ is the Light that overcomes the darkness of sin, death and evil. We observe the reality of the enemies, sin and death, and look to the promise of our resurrection and new life in Christ. We also observe the reality of evil and rejoice that God is more powerful and has already overcome it. ~ “O Death, where is your victory? O Death, where is your sting?” ~ <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=1+Corinthians+15%3A55" class="bibleref" title="ESV 1Corinthians 15:55">I Corinthians 15:55</a></p>
<p>All Hallows’ (Saints’) Day: On this day we observe that God’s people are to reflect the Light of Christ in our lives. We celebrate and honor the lives and works of our spiritual forbearers–church fathers, martyrs and saints, known and unknown, living and dead–and recognize that only by the grace of God we too might have the faith to live holy lives as Christ commands. ~ “Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith.” ~<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Heb.+13%3A7" class="bibleref" title="ESV Heb 13:7">Heb. 13:7</a>~</p>
<p>All Souls’ Day: On this day we observe that, God’s people are called to be lampstands, sharing the Light of Christ in both word and deed with those in the world who are still walking in darkness. We remember all souls living by proclaiming the Kingdom of God and working to bring peace into our world, to establish justice among us, to lift the burdens of those who are oppressed, to care for the sick, and to assist the poor. ~ “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.” ~ <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Matthew+5%3A16" class="bibleref" title="ESV Matthew 5:16">Matthew 5:16</a> ~</p>
<p>It is a wonderful opportunity of witness if we can craft our decorations to emphasize these truths, as well. I have done this and my daughter loves it. Who would have thought reapers and bible verses could go together?! Also, from a spiritual perspective, I created liturgies for our family to use to worship together on each of the three days, discussing the themes mentioned above. We listen to Christian &#8220;Halloween&#8221; music (Selah&#8217;s &#8220;Ain&#8217;t No Grave&#8221; and &#8220;All My Sins (Be Washed Away)&#8221; are my newest favorites, but I have a huge list), and we read about the saints. So, I have no qualm with Believers who choose not to celebrate, and understand and respect their reasons for not doing so. But, it is not the only appropriate Christian response.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the biggest reasons I dont like Halloween is what others are doing that night.  We used to live in San Diego and would hear about all the street kids in TJ that were missing the next day and the deaths reported that night.  We lived next to a lady and her teen who was, she said, involved in a coven for many years.  The teen said every year at Halloween, she felt the coven &quot;calling her back&quot;.  She had regressed and had the mind of a 5 year old.  That Halloween morning, my husband and I woke up to what sounded like an animal in the neighboring condo (the lady and her teens), it was the girl - going berserk, tearing the sink off the wall, saying they were calling again....

I just couldn&#039;t see having a fun time when its life and death for others, you know.

That said, we do try to make it fun for our kids anyway, lots of candy, a movie, or a harvest festival with friends.

Last year I tried something different, I invited 2 other Christian families to go to a corn maze.  They are now no longer my friends, I guess I was a heathen to have even had that crazy idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the biggest reasons I dont like Halloween is what others are doing that night.  We used to live in San Diego and would hear about all the street kids in TJ that were missing the next day and the deaths reported that night.  We lived next to a lady and her teen who was, she said, involved in a coven for many years.  The teen said every year at Halloween, she felt the coven &#8220;calling her back&#8221;.  She had regressed and had the mind of a 5 year old.  That Halloween morning, my husband and I woke up to what sounded like an animal in the neighboring condo (the lady and her teens), it was the girl &#8211; going berserk, tearing the sink off the wall, saying they were calling again&#8230;.</p>
<p>I just couldn&#8217;t see having a fun time when its life and death for others, you know.</p>
<p>That said, we do try to make it fun for our kids anyway, lots of candy, a movie, or a harvest festival with friends.</p>
<p>Last year I tried something different, I invited 2 other Christian families to go to a corn maze.  They are now no longer my friends, I guess I was a heathen to have even had that crazy idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Boethius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boethius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a child &quot;trick or treating&quot; in the late 60s. I hated it. I loved the candy but I hated costumes. My mom would tell my brother to take off his mask in the car because it would always freak me out. 

As the parent of three children (all are now adults), I did not allow them to participate in the festivities of the neighborhood. They now tell me they did &quot;not&quot; feel left out. They do not think they have missed anything. 

One of my co-workers is Wiccan. Halloween is her favorite holiday. She really likes that Celtic music. IM, do you think my co-worker has been caught up in all the hoopla of the Celtic history of the holiday? That is to say, are the Wiccans just as wrapped up in the false demonization of Halloween?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a child &#8220;trick or treating&#8221; in the late 60s. I hated it. I loved the candy but I hated costumes. My mom would tell my brother to take off his mask in the car because it would always freak me out. </p>
<p>As the parent of three children (all are now adults), I did not allow them to participate in the festivities of the neighborhood. They now tell me they did &#8220;not&#8221; feel left out. They do not think they have missed anything. </p>
<p>One of my co-workers is Wiccan. Halloween is her favorite holiday. She really likes that Celtic music. IM, do you think my co-worker has been caught up in all the hoopla of the Celtic history of the holiday? That is to say, are the Wiccans just as wrapped up in the false demonization of Halloween?</p>
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