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	<title>Comments on: The Evangelical Liturgy 5: The Prelude</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-evangelical-liturgy-5-the-prelude/comment-page-1#comment-510307</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Building depth and community through being invested in other peoplesâ€™ lives and allowing them to invest in yours. NOT discussing yesterdayâ€™s game, the weather or a new car purchase.&quot;

I gotta say that I think that the way you get invested in people&#039;s lives and allowing them to invest in yours is to get to know them, and all the big AND little things that they care about, or happen to them. Hearing about how a friend spent yesterday afternoon helps me get to know here better. Deep relationships and casual chat aren&#039;t against each other -- a relationship was supposed to be conducted on a serious level all the time would be like a roof without walls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Building depth and community through being invested in other peoplesâ€™ lives and allowing them to invest in yours. NOT discussing yesterdayâ€™s game, the weather or a new car purchase.&#8221;</p>
<p>I gotta say that I think that the way you get invested in people&#8217;s lives and allowing them to invest in yours is to get to know them, and all the big AND little things that they care about, or happen to them. Hearing about how a friend spent yesterday afternoon helps me get to know here better. Deep relationships and casual chat aren&#8217;t against each other &#8212; a relationship was supposed to be conducted on a serious level all the time would be like a roof without walls.</p>
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		<title>By: Sensus Divinitatis News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sensus Divinitatis News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Evangelical Liturgy 5: The Prelude...&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>This post was chosen as newsworthy at Sensus Divinitatis News&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday&#8217;s Links of the Week &#124; Rethink Mission</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-evangelical-liturgy-5-the-prelude/comment-page-1#comment-508624</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday&#8217;s Links of the Week &#124; Rethink Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is Evangelical Liturgy Like â€œJumbo Shrimpâ€? Helpful thoughts on how a prelude can help focus the congregation into â€œworship mode.â€ The big question: what do you do with announcements? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is Evangelical Liturgy Like â€œJumbo Shrimpâ€? Helpful thoughts on how a prelude can help focus the congregation into â€œworship mode.â€ The big question: what do you do with announcements? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with pre-service &#039;fellowship&#039; if it&#039;s true spiritual fellowship.  Building depth and community through being invested in other peoples&#039; lives and allowing them to invest in yours.   NOT discussing yesterday&#039;s game, the weather or a new car purchase.

There&#039;s nothing wrong with pre-service announcements if we see them as opportunities for greater service, building community, deeper teaching, or meeting needs.   NOT &#039;commercials&#039; for the agendas of different ministries or committees who also compete for who gets the brightest colored bulletin insert.

I&#039;m not saying we should try to &#039;spiritualize&#039; everything we do in life, but I think we should try to intentionally spiritualize everything we do in church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with pre-service &#8216;fellowship&#8217; if it&#8217;s true spiritual fellowship.  Building depth and community through being invested in other peoples&#8217; lives and allowing them to invest in yours.   NOT discussing yesterday&#8217;s game, the weather or a new car purchase.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with pre-service announcements if we see them as opportunities for greater service, building community, deeper teaching, or meeting needs.   NOT &#8216;commercials&#8217; for the agendas of different ministries or committees who also compete for who gets the brightest colored bulletin insert.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying we should try to &#8216;spiritualize&#8217; everything we do in life, but I think we should try to intentionally spiritualize everything we do in church.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We donâ€™t even have toilets or â€œcry roomsâ€! Coffee and doughnuts in a special room afterwards? What kind of frippery is this?&quot;

So I guess the Starbucks cafe outside the worship center would be a bit of a shock. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We donâ€™t even have toilets or â€œcry roomsâ€! Coffee and doughnuts in a special room afterwards? What kind of frippery is this?&#8221;</p>
<p>So I guess the Starbucks cafe outside the worship center would be a bit of a shock. <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mule.  I guess my point is that there didn&#039;t used to be the delineation between secular and sacred.  All music in the baroque and several following eras was sacred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mule.  I guess my point is that there didn&#8217;t used to be the delineation between secular and sacred.  All music in the baroque and several following eras was sacred.</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Chewing Briars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mule Chewing Briars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low pop culture makes me feel stupid, unhip,  and pointless, but that goes for most of the time anyway.

I kinda go to church to avoid that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Low pop culture makes me feel stupid, unhip,  and pointless, but that goes for most of the time anyway.</p>
<p>I kinda go to church to avoid that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Chewing Briars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mule Chewing Briars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try &quot;Spem In Alium&quot; by Thomas Tallis, an English Reformation composer of the 16th Century.  The first time I heard it, it was playing in the background, and I literally didn&#039;t think it was human.

I never experienced this with &quot;Shine, Jesus, Shine&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try &#8220;Spem In Alium&#8221; by Thomas Tallis, an English Reformation composer of the 16th Century.  The first time I heard it, it was playing in the background, and I literally didn&#8217;t think it was human.</p>
<p>I never experienced this with &#8220;Shine, Jesus, Shine&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we had some folks who were &quot;on call&quot; including a doctor, there was no &quot;turn it off&quot; policy.  There was a &quot;silence it&quot; policy that was kept to.  And I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we had some folks who were &#8220;on call&#8221; including a doctor, there was no &#8220;turn it off&#8221; policy.  There was a &#8220;silence it&#8221; policy that was kept to.  And I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why don&#039;t we refer to these people as traditionists instead of conservatives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why don&#8217;t we refer to these people as traditionists instead of conservatives?</p>
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