Comments on: Southern Baptist Identity: A conversation (2) http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/southern-baptist-identity-a-conversation-2 ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:11:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: steve yates http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/southern-baptist-identity-a-conversation-2/comment-page-1#comment-26349 steve yates Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:58:28 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/southern-baptist-identity-a-conversation-2#comment-26349 not to be annoying (which, sadly, i find it sometimes when i hear about controversy after controversy happening within the sbc leadership), but what ARE our "confessional ties"? it seems we can't decide on what even that means, and the controversy develops when we can't decide on anyting. current state of the sbc: Our confession (BF&M 2000) says _________ (insert passage here) so some people take it to mean ___________ (insert any less than 1950's conservative position here ) and we take it to mean __________ (conservative resurgence position here). We're in power, so we step on you instead of talking about things. it's frustrating, because I see the positions of both sides, but I don't undertsand why we won't allow even SOME hint at diversity. for glory... steve not to be annoying (which, sadly, i find it sometimes when i hear about controversy after controversy happening within the sbc leadership), but what ARE our “confessional ties”? it seems we can’t decide on what even that means, and the controversy develops when we can’t decide on anyting.

current state of the sbc:

Our confession (BF&M 2000) says _________ (insert passage here) so some people take it to mean ___________ (insert any less than 1950’s conservative position here ) and we take it to mean __________ (conservative resurgence position here). We’re in power, so we step on you instead of talking about things.

it’s frustrating, because I see the positions of both sides, but I don’t undertsand why we won’t allow even SOME hint at diversity.

for glory…
steve

]]> By: markdevine http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/southern-baptist-identity-a-conversation-2/comment-page-1#comment-24286 markdevine Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:18:16 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/southern-baptist-identity-a-conversation-2#comment-24286 I am working on an article on emerging and Southern Baptists and yes, I think I do see what you mean by irony at some of the stuff the SBC has been able to swallow or put up with in the seeker churches. I believe that the main explanation is that Sothern Baptists have a very strong desire to see growth. This could be a hopeful sign. Insofar as some of the doctrine loving emerging types demonstrate effectiveness in church growth, especially in urban settings where Southern Baptists have been weak, it could be hard for the SBC to resist learning from them and welcoming them over time if they want to be part of the SBC. I certainly hope this is what happens. I find many students at MBTS where I teach interested in the emerging movement. And some key older established SBC types are fascinated with what Keller is doing. I am working on an article on emerging and Southern Baptists and yes, I think I do see what you mean by irony at some of the stuff the SBC has been able to swallow or put up with in the seeker churches. I believe that the main explanation is that Sothern Baptists have a very strong desire to see growth.

This could be a hopeful sign. Insofar as some of the doctrine loving emerging types demonstrate effectiveness in church growth, especially in urban settings where Southern Baptists have been weak, it could be hard for the SBC to resist learning from them and welcoming them over time if they want to be part of the SBC. I certainly hope this is what happens. I find many students at MBTS where I teach interested in the emerging movement. And some key older established SBC types are fascinated with what Keller is doing.

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