Comments on: Sabbatical Journal 1/Peterson Seminar (Conclusion)

By: ken

ken — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:15:53 +0000

churches? sabbaticals? pastors? this is all fabrications of todays religious scene. in my books no need for organized religion with someone over me, calling the shots.the bible can be read and absorbed without anyones plethora of their particular interpretations. they spew forth anything from the pulpit, wrap a few scriptures around it and think that’s it. 2 people form a church and god can be in their midst. fabrications for wasting money such as sabbaticals ,ensure the demise of interest towards the church nowadays. incessant blithering of imposed teachings of tithing to the masses also promotes disinterest. people are not standing for religion and it’s traditions that are eons old and the #’s show it at the lobby.

By: Rick Ritchie

Rick Ritchie — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:24:25 +0000

Peterson may be right about the Septuagint as a loose translation. But someone may make the case that he’s wrong, too. I believe that our oldest Septuagint manuscripts are in most cases much older than our oldest Hebrew manuscripts. From the little I know of the textual history, cases can be made for either being more reliable. And perhaps one manuscript may win for one part of the Old Testament and another may win for the other part. Even if someone can make a case that the Hebrew manuscripts are always better, that case must be made before we decide that the Septuagint translation is loose. Perhaps explanatory notes added to one Hebrew text were copied into the actual text of the next generation of copies.

By: Michael Spencer

Michael Spencer — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:37:53 +0000

Ontological Church= That church in its being

Functional Church= what the church does- actions, programs, buildings, numbers

By: Grant

Grant — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:00:40 +0000

What’s the “functional church”? Is it the same thing as the universal church?

By: Jenny

Jenny — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:55:49 +0000

I absolutely love and needed to read that quote on prayer today. Thanks for sharing about what you learned. Any word on when book #4 in the current Peterson series will be released?

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:19:09 +0000

Thanks for relaying your experiences on sabbatical. Concerning Peterson’s comments on the Septuagint, in my advanced Greek class at Catholic University, almost every day (as well as on our mid-term and final) our professor would give us a verse in Hebrew and had us translate it into Greek to see how we do compared with the translators of the LXX. Granted the Hebrew text the translators of the Septuagint had to work with may have been slightly different, I am not sure if the differences are accounted for by an intentionally loose translation or because the translators, being fallible human beings, got it wrong on occasion.

As for his other comments, Peterson has a lot to say about the pitfalls of the modern evangelical church. Many in the ministry would do well to listen.

By: Jared

Jared — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:22 +0000

Great points on the church! It seems like the overall sense is to “cease striving” in terms of marketing the church to the world. Our sinning should be bold, for it explains our hope.