Comments on: Robert Short on The Partial Jesus of the Nominal Christian http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:00:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Two-Sheds Gomer http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian/comment-page-1#comment-8707 Two-Sheds Gomer Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:51:19 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian#comment-8707 Whatever the opposite of "spinning in his grave" is, that's what Sparky's doing right now. ;-) Whatever the opposite of “spinning in his grave” is, that’s what Sparky’s doing right now. ;-)

]]> By: Michael Spencer http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian/comment-page-1#comment-8704 Michael Spencer Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:19:08 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian#comment-8704 Cornchex: I wish I could do that sort of thing. You ought to google "Emperor Jesus Birth" or "Emperor titles Jesus." Crossan did a thing at Beliefnet that covered some of this. Here's the short version. The Roman emperors called themselves Lord and God, encouraged worship, claimed to be descended form gods (Augustus promoted the myth that his mother was impregnated by Apollo). They claimed to be responsible for all prosperity, and of course they claimed the title of King, potentate, Almighty, etc. The rhetoric of Yahweh's Kingship, Messianic prophecy and the titles of Jesus all run directly counter to the claims of earthly rulers. See Psalm 2 and Acts 4. peace. Cornchex: I wish I could do that sort of thing. You ought to google “Emperor Jesus Birth” or “Emperor titles Jesus.” Crossan did a thing at Beliefnet that covered some of this.

Here’s the short version. The Roman emperors called themselves Lord and God, encouraged worship, claimed to be descended form gods (Augustus promoted the myth that his mother was impregnated by Apollo). They claimed to be responsible for all prosperity, and of course they claimed the title of King, potentate, Almighty, etc.

The rhetoric of Yahweh’s Kingship, Messianic prophecy and the titles of Jesus all run directly counter to the claims of earthly rulers. See Psalm 2 and Acts 4.

peace.

]]> By: cornchex http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian/comment-page-1#comment-8703 cornchex Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:26:21 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian#comment-8703 Michael, I know it is a busy time of year, but could you trace through really quickly how the titles of Augustus matched up with that the angels said about Jesus? I am intrigued...and in need of a sermon.... Thanks! Michael,
I know it is a busy time of year, but could you trace through really quickly how the titles of Augustus matched up with that the angels said about Jesus? I am intrigued…and in need of a sermon….
Thanks!

]]> By: Heather http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian/comment-page-1#comment-8701 Heather Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:46:20 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian#comment-8701 What you are talking about is risky Christianity. Why take a risk when we are all so comfortable in our kingdoms? Maybe this is related to why Christianity explodes under persecution. Not that I'm wishing persecution on myself! I'm not that risky! What you are talking about is risky Christianity. Why take a risk when we are all so comfortable in our kingdoms?
Maybe this is related to why Christianity explodes under persecution. Not that I’m wishing persecution on myself! I’m not that risky!

]]> By: John H http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian/comment-page-1#comment-8697 John H Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:58:15 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian#comment-8697 Great quote. Spurred me to dig out my old Robert Short books - it was his "Bible According To Peanuts" that gave me my final nudge back to faith in 1994. Great quote. Spurred me to dig out my old Robert Short books – it was his “Bible According To Peanuts” that gave me my final nudge back to faith in 1994.

]]> By: DunkerEric http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian/comment-page-1#comment-8693 DunkerEric Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:58:38 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/robert-short-on-the-partial-jesus-of-the-nominal-christian#comment-8693 Thanks, Michael. That is a fantastic quote that expresses something I have been trying to vocalize for a long time. I've been mulling over these people in the Gospels who encounter Jesus and express faith in Jesus--but there is no doctrine there. They don't express faith in something about him, but just in him. Thanks, Michael. That is a fantastic quote that expresses something I have been trying to vocalize for a long time.

I’ve been mulling over these people in the Gospels who encounter Jesus and express faith in Jesus–but there is no doctrine there. They don’t express faith in something about him, but just in him.

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