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	<title>Comments on: Review: The Irresistable Revolution by Shane Claiborne</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Patty Ayers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty Ayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this book about a year ago. When I finished reading it, I literally turned back to the first page and read it again. 

And I&#039;ve just finished reading his recent book, &quot;Jesus for President&quot;, and it&#039;s just as mind-blowing. 

I totally agree with the author of this post; Claiborne has a message which is desperately needed by the Church. 

I wish everybody would read them, everybody!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this book about a year ago. When I finished reading it, I literally turned back to the first page and read it again. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve just finished reading his recent book, &#8220;Jesus for President&#8221;, and it&#8217;s just as mind-blowing. </p>
<p>I totally agree with the author of this post; Claiborne has a message which is desperately needed by the Church. </p>
<p>I wish everybody would read them, everybody!</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me three months to read this book (usually kill off tomes like this in a day or so). I kept going back and rereading the parts that aggravated me and found MY ideals not so ideal. Redemption is a powerful thing. Especially when you discover yourself in need of it instead of preaching it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me three months to read this book (usually kill off tomes like this in a day or so). I kept going back and rereading the parts that aggravated me and found MY ideals not so ideal. Redemption is a powerful thing. Especially when you discover yourself in need of it instead of preaching it.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I&#039;ve had many of my friends read the book. The copy that I read has been read probably by about 20 people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I&#8217;ve had many of my friends read the book. The copy that I read has been read probably by about 20 people.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book is by far the best book that I have ever read, excluding the bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book is by far the best book that I have ever read, excluding the bible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our whole youth group has been going TIR by Claiborne for the past five-six weeks, and I&#039;ve never seen high school students so impassioned and want to reach outside of themselves or their own kind. And I&#039;ve been a part of youth ministries for 10 years.

You know when you come back from a mission trip, and you&#039;re all jazzed up to be sacrificial and share of your excess, and have materialism and consumerism in perspective?  Well, these kids are feeling like this months BEFORE going on a mission trip.

Claiborne is just telling us what Jesus already did -- we just tend to skip over those portions of Scripture and do the easy stuff. 

Cause when has giving away the stuff we hoard been easy? When has loving strangersâ€”the dirty ones, the penniless ones, the unlovablesâ€”ever been comfortable? 

My wife and I have really been challenged ourselves and are questioning EVERYTHING about the way we live our lives -- how we live, what level of excess or what quality of life we DESERVE, how we can benefit others, even the brands we sponsor.

Read it, people. I pray that it renews your mind so you might break out of the patterns you might be living in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our whole youth group has been going TIR by Claiborne for the past five-six weeks, and I&#8217;ve never seen high school students so impassioned and want to reach outside of themselves or their own kind. And I&#8217;ve been a part of youth ministries for 10 years.</p>
<p>You know when you come back from a mission trip, and you&#8217;re all jazzed up to be sacrificial and share of your excess, and have materialism and consumerism in perspective?  Well, these kids are feeling like this months BEFORE going on a mission trip.</p>
<p>Claiborne is just telling us what Jesus already did &#8212; we just tend to skip over those portions of Scripture and do the easy stuff. </p>
<p>Cause when has giving away the stuff we hoard been easy? When has loving strangersâ€”the dirty ones, the penniless ones, the unlovablesâ€”ever been comfortable? </p>
<p>My wife and I have really been challenged ourselves and are questioning EVERYTHING about the way we live our lives &#8212; how we live, what level of excess or what quality of life we DESERVE, how we can benefit others, even the brands we sponsor.</p>
<p>Read it, people. I pray that it renews your mind so you might break out of the patterns you might be living in.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does OBI stand for?

Anyway , I haven&#039;t read the book yet , just ordered it. I saw an interview on the local PBS station WHYY(philly).  The message I get is , get out and live in the community, do what you can to help poorer people , preach by example , go against the grain of secular and religious-right social work , and try to literally follow the teaching of Jesus both his words and actions.  
The interview moved me to tears.  I think Mr Claiborne is very courageous and I am going to investigate what is going on down there in the philly &quot;bad lands&quot;.

Thanks for the review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does OBI stand for?</p>
<p>Anyway , I haven&#8217;t read the book yet , just ordered it. I saw an interview on the local PBS station WHYY(philly).  The message I get is , get out and live in the community, do what you can to help poorer people , preach by example , go against the grain of secular and religious-right social work , and try to literally follow the teaching of Jesus both his words and actions.<br />
The interview moved me to tears.  I think Mr Claiborne is very courageous and I am going to investigate what is going on down there in the philly &#8220;bad lands&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for the review.</p>
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		<title>By: jmanning</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmanning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 02:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael I&#039;m sorry to come off abrasively (which I&#039;m guessing from your response I did, though I don&#039;t get the shoe statement),

Everything we do is from doctrine, whether incorrectly or correctly held from the Bible.  When we divorce action from doctrine, historically we have about one generation until orthodoxy takes a huge slide for the worse.  We seem to already be limping a bit and it might pay to be extra cautious with anymore truth we jettison since there&#039;s not much left around.  Clairborne does any excellent job with &quot;what&quot;, but his &quot;how&quot; is vague or misguided.  His Christology is in flux (most emergent movements have this) and his view of salvation must follow the flux of his Christ.  If Christ becomes too much a man, salvation becomes too much of our effort as we outwardly mimic the shoes off this &quot;Jesus&quot; but inwardly miss the mark.  If Christ becomes too transcendent, it becomes a vague sense of &quot;ughhhh....I&#039;ll just say a prayer and hope it pans out&quot;.  

True imitation comes from implantation of the Divine nature, and I don&#039;t see much &quot;regenerative&quot; focus in Clairborne&#039;s view. Though I believe he has experienced it, I don&#039;t think he emphasizes it.  (The Rich Mullins story at Wheaton shows this).  This and much more is my beef with this book, obviously I liked it if I prodded this obsessively through it, yet I doubt I could recommend it to a single person because of the frustration it brought me.  And no it was not frustration with the implications of how we should live, I agree with it very much.  I was frustrated because he usually ejected the why a few pages before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael I&#8217;m sorry to come off abrasively (which I&#8217;m guessing from your response I did, though I don&#8217;t get the shoe statement),</p>
<p>Everything we do is from doctrine, whether incorrectly or correctly held from the Bible.  When we divorce action from doctrine, historically we have about one generation until orthodoxy takes a huge slide for the worse.  We seem to already be limping a bit and it might pay to be extra cautious with anymore truth we jettison since there&#8217;s not much left around.  Clairborne does any excellent job with &#8220;what&#8221;, but his &#8220;how&#8221; is vague or misguided.  His Christology is in flux (most emergent movements have this) and his view of salvation must follow the flux of his Christ.  If Christ becomes too much a man, salvation becomes too much of our effort as we outwardly mimic the shoes off this &#8220;Jesus&#8221; but inwardly miss the mark.  If Christ becomes too transcendent, it becomes a vague sense of &#8220;ughhhh&#8230;.I&#8217;ll just say a prayer and hope it pans out&#8221;.  </p>
<p>True imitation comes from implantation of the Divine nature, and I don&#8217;t see much &#8220;regenerative&#8221; focus in Clairborne&#8217;s view. Though I believe he has experienced it, I don&#8217;t think he emphasizes it.  (The Rich Mullins story at Wheaton shows this).  This and much more is my beef with this book, obviously I liked it if I prodded this obsessively through it, yet I doubt I could recommend it to a single person because of the frustration it brought me.  And no it was not frustration with the implications of how we should live, I agree with it very much.  I was frustrated because he usually ejected the why a few pages before.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. It&#039;s not a book about doctrine. Now can I start posting comments on books that are all about doctrine....and that&#039;s all? No active efforts to serve Christ. Just doctrine so we can all be assured we believe all the right things.

This criticism sounds vaguely familiar. Where have I heard it before?

The shoe might fit on the other foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. It&#8217;s not a book about doctrine. Now can I start posting comments on books that are all about doctrine&#8230;.and that&#8217;s all? No active efforts to serve Christ. Just doctrine so we can all be assured we believe all the right things.</p>
<p>This criticism sounds vaguely familiar. Where have I heard it before?</p>
<p>The shoe might fit on the other foot.</p>
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		<title>By: jmanning</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmanning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what you didn&#039;t mention about this book (and what is scary) is Clairborne&#039;s continued bent on ignoring portions of the bible dealing with &quot;doctrine&quot;.  Throughout the book he is skeptical of &quot;Systematic&quot; approaches to theology.  He is against Christian scholarship (quotes Kierkegard that &quot;Christian scholarship is what people invented to protect themselves against the real teachings of Jesus&quot;) and embraces as rolemodels people who clearly did not believe in Jesus or the buzzword: justification by faith.  
I am not at all against &quot;what&quot; Clairborne is saying, but his reason for &quot;why&quot; is not at all compelling.  This is the start of what happened in Europe 100 years ago, socialize the gospel and jettison doctrine and you lose the whole thing.  You can&#039;t accept Jesus&#039; actions without His teaching.  Claiborne distinctly does this...

You should warn people about this book at least, not just give them a blanket statement approval.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what you didn&#8217;t mention about this book (and what is scary) is Clairborne&#8217;s continued bent on ignoring portions of the bible dealing with &#8220;doctrine&#8221;.  Throughout the book he is skeptical of &#8220;Systematic&#8221; approaches to theology.  He is against Christian scholarship (quotes Kierkegard that &#8220;Christian scholarship is what people invented to protect themselves against the real teachings of Jesus&#8221;) and embraces as rolemodels people who clearly did not believe in Jesus or the buzzword: justification by faith.<br />
I am not at all against &#8220;what&#8221; Clairborne is saying, but his reason for &#8220;why&#8221; is not at all compelling.  This is the start of what happened in Europe 100 years ago, socialize the gospel and jettison doctrine and you lose the whole thing.  You can&#8217;t accept Jesus&#8217; actions without His teaching.  Claiborne distinctly does this&#8230;</p>
<p>You should warn people about this book at least, not just give them a blanket statement approval.</p>
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		<title>By: TheHungarianLuddite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheHungarianLuddite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Thanks for this review. I have reserved this book at our localLibrary. Ohio has the best Library system......You can order books from any Library in the State. There are six copies of this book floating around. 

I hope the book will be everything you say it is. 

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Thanks for this review. I have reserved this book at our localLibrary. Ohio has the best Library system&#8230;&#8230;You can order books from any Library in the State. There are six copies of this book floating around. </p>
<p>I hope the book will be everything you say it is. </p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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