October 19, 2017

Rev Eric Dudley, St. Peter’s Anglican Church, Tallahassee, Florida: The Nuts and Bolts of Anglican Liturgy

We’ve been talking the Evangelical/Protestant liturgy recently, so why not something to give us some background in an evangelical Anglican liturgy. I’ve been watching with great interest- OK, with undiluted envy- the growth of one of the new Anglican congregations in the southeast, St.Peter’s Anglican in Tallahassee, Florida. If you aren’t getting their podcasts, you are really missing a positive, exciting example of why ACNA churches are going to do some amazing things. (If you can, listen to the wonderful 4th anniversary sermon 10/11/09, Blessed to be A Blessing.) They have big plans.

A growing Anglican church has a lot of evangelicals to educate in the basics of liturgy. Rev. Eric Dudley is a wonderful preacher and a fine teacher. In this presentation, he takes an hour to guide you through the basics of Anglican liturgy. Many of you in the IM audience will learn a tremendous amount about the larger, deeper tradition in the Anglican and Episcopal churches. Listen to his explanation of not being “sermon centered” and what is an “Anglican altar call.”

The Nuts and Bolts of Anglican Liturgy from St. Peter's Anglican Church on Vimeo.

Comments

  1. This is good stuff Michael.

    One of the things that I like about liturgy is it’s deliberateness (is that a word?). There’s no pretence that the structure of a service is somehow ‘super spiritual’. The liturgy acknowledges the communities’ history in it’s worship practice. The converse is the church that pretends is has no traditional norms and thinks it is ‘guided by the spirit’ when in fact, on observation, there are loads of implicit traditions and accepted practices going on. At least the liturgial church has made theirs tacit.

  2. As an Anglican it is encouraging to see a church that is strong and growing without rejecting our tradition. It’s strange to come around to a time when liturgy and catechesis is fresh and exciting again!

  3. I’ve said it before but will repeat it. A vibrant Anglicanism may be one of the only forces able to withstand the turmult of our times. They have both the historic foundation and traditions, and the dynamism to adapt as needed.

    Speaking as a baptist, I’m afraid unless we make serious efforts to connect and anchor ourselves to more ancient traditions we just will not have the underpinnings we need.

  4. Thumbs up! Good stuff!

  5. Mmm… burse, chalice veil… mmmmm. Nice to see them in use in a vibrant church. 🙂

    (I’ll let the non-liturgical people google those terms!)

  6. Stephen Yates says:

    Dudley’s a great priest and the church has blessed many of my friends. Austin, many of my tallahassee college friends left Baptist and Methodist churches to go to St. Peters. – especially indicative of how ancient-future worship can be attractive in a non-pomo trendy environment.

  7. Very nice.

    I must quibble though with his statement that Anglicanism is not a pulpit centered tradition. Well yeah, but it’s not table centered either. It’s Word/Sacrament centered. He probably thinks that too, but a lot of Anglican types use that rhetoric to devalue preaching and I ain’t much too keen on that there way of thinkin’!!!

    • He’s an outstanding preacher and you can see from their resource page they pursue an ambitious preaching agenda. I think he was in reference to architecture, i.e. literal “centered” placement of the pulpit.

    • Peter loves it when people offer him critiques of the architecture in our rented space. I just don’t think it’s that big a deal to move all of the pews every Sunday. I mean, if everyone pitched in…!

    • I have been a communicant at St. Peter’s from its inception. Believe me, it is indeed “table centered”. The Eucharist is at the center of all we do and all that we are. That is why we are such a strong parish. We have five fine priests who are all wonderfully gifed from the pulpit. If any of you are ever in Tallahassee, come and visit us on Sunday. You will see the testimony alive and well in our corner of the world. We are a Bible based church with activities, outreach opportunities and the Holy Book for peoples of all ages and stages of the Christian journey. We are fortunate to be living in a community with such an Anglican tradition and fellow Christians who want to serve God and be a presence to the world.

  8. I love how he talks about the visual communication of the Gothic architecture.

    But is it weird that I his accent seems incongruous with his denomination? Thanks goodness that the pulpit is not central!

    • His accent? You don’t think there are Anglican/Episcopalians in the south??? Where are you?

      • Me? I’m from the west coast. I was born in raised in northern California, have a best friend in Portland, and have been lived in Southern California since 2004.

        I even have the California accent…. dude.

        Although yes, it does make sense, given history, that there would be Anglicans/Episcopalians in the South.

    • Joel,

      As a one time history teacher I can say that his accent fits more with Anglicanism in the US than any other historicaly. Anglicans were very prominent in the South, especially along the coast in the Deep South.

      Austin

  9. I can understand so many Baptists in the south being attracted to the Anglican worship model. It is the antithesis of what happened to most people at my church. I am one of 3 or 4 in the church who was not at one point Roman Catholic. No one recruited them, they left on their own accord. Many gave up God on the way out. Now they found a place to worship. some will not stand to sing, as they gave up “stand, sit,stand sit,” . Rebellion to a system they feel failed them. We pray for the healing that God alone can bring. I was at Mass last Saturday and had a worshipful experience. I would not share that experience with many in the church, they would not understand.

    Because human nature is what it is I am glad there is Chocolate and Vanilla, and with our Anglican brothers, Twist.

    • “and with our Anglican brothers, Twist.”

      😀

      That’s an interesting way to describe our “via media.”

      • The history of the Reformation in the British Isles is more along the lines of “Rocky Road” 🙂

  10. Steve Newell says:

    Michael,

    This is an nice compliment to Grace Lutheran Church. Of course, I’m basis towards Grace Lutheran.

    Your series on the Liturgy as been a wonderful way to introducing many to what happens in thousands of churches every Sunday.

  11. Wonderfully well done. We Baptists had better wake up, and restore respect and order to our services or get run over by these guys. Why can’t we have a reverent liturgical form without sprinkling babies?

  12. I think what Fr. Dudley was emphasizing when he said that Anglicanism is not pulpit-centered is that we do not attach the same signifance and centrality of the pulpit as do our Reformed bretheren. He was not saying that the sermon is an unimportant part of the liturgy but that it is not the central act of worship by Anglican Christians.

  13. He’s got some of his facts wrong and waxes a little apologetical, but overall it’s a very down to earth explanation that I think many many people would find helpful.

    What’s with the fluffy plants in the back? Very very odd for an Anglican church.

    • They are in a temporary facility.

      You should say what facts are wrong if you are going to point that out.

    • This talk was the Tuesday after our 4th Anniversary celebration which was held off-site so no flowers this time in the church. The altar guild added some greenery there and will replace it with flowers before this Sunday.

  14. I thought this video was excellent. He provided a thorough (but not too much) explanation of things. And his accent actually drew me into the talk. It was calm and laid-back, but filled with passion. Great speaking, and while it was a “formal” talk (in the sense that he was teaching), it was “informal” in the sense that it wasn’t a full blown speech.

    The only thing I personally didn’t like is some theological terms here and there. Not because they were inherintly wrong, but because they could be confused with other people who use the same terms (the Real Prescence comes to mind here), but mean a completely different thing. Still, taking his audience into context, it isn’t that big of a deal. Just lil’ me being nit-picky.

    Overall, wonderful video. I’d recommend it, but iMonk beat me to it 🙂

  15. I know that this is not likely to come here at internetmonk.com, but if someone has something similar as this video but from a Roman Catholic perspective, I would be interested.

  16. I really enjoyed that, it was very interesting and thought provoking – however it was kind of weird that he bashed the current arch bishop? Im not an anglican so I don’t know what’s really going on but that kind of felt weird. Did anyone else sense that?

  17. Great presentation!