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	<title>Comments on: Recommendation and Review by Ryan Cordle: The Blue Parakeet by Scot McKnight</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

I understand justice to be giving a thing its due. And if McKnight&#039;s position leaves a hermeneutical loophole that you can drive a truck through, then pointing out such a problem is precisely part of what it is to do justice to his book.

In the peace of Christ,

- Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>I understand justice to be giving a thing its due. And if McKnight&#8217;s position leaves a hermeneutical loophole that you can drive a truck through, then pointing out such a problem is precisely part of what it is to do justice to his book.</p>
<p>In the peace of Christ,</p>
<p>- Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: iMonk</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/recommendation-and-review-by-ryan-cordle-the-blue-parakeet-by-scot-mcknight/comment-page-1#comment-313334</link>
		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhhh geee. I really needed another debate, Ryan. Puhleeze!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhh geee. I really needed another debate, Ryan. Puhleeze!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Cordle</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/recommendation-and-review-by-ryan-cordle-the-blue-parakeet-by-scot-mcknight/comment-page-1#comment-313327</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Cordle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time a comment thread turns into a RCC-Prot debate a puppy dies. As a great respecter of puppies, I will just say that my above review was exactly that, namely me trying to write a review in close to 600 words. This isn&#039;t a well-written defense of McKnight&#039;s views; it&#039;s just me trying to do a little bit of justice to a book. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time a comment thread turns into a RCC-Prot debate a puppy dies. As a great respecter of puppies, I will just say that my above review was exactly that, namely me trying to write a review in close to 600 words. This isn&#8217;t a well-written defense of McKnight&#8217;s views; it&#8217;s just me trying to do a little bit of justice to a book. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: iMonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IOWs, let&#039;s turn this into a Catholic - Protestant discussion of authority asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IOWs, let&#8217;s turn this into a Catholic &#8211; Protestant discussion of authority asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Cross</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/recommendation-and-review-by-ryan-cordle-the-blue-parakeet-by-scot-mcknight/comment-page-1#comment-313252</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

It seems rather ironic that the point of the book is to &quot;let the blue parakeets be blue parakeets, instead of trying to explain them away&quot; while at the same time claiming that &quot;The Pauline texts, which seem to exclude women from pastoral ministries, are essentially Paul having to speak in his own day in his own way&quot;. It seems that, apparently, what counts as &quot;explaining them away&quot; is entirely subjective. One man&#039;s &quot;explaining them away&quot; is another man&#039;s &quot;interpreting&quot;.

And when you ask, &quot;If the Spirit is today leading women to important ecclesiastical things, who are we to get in the way?&quot;, I&#039;m left wondering how exactly you know that it is the [Holy] Spirit doing these things, and not merely the spirit of our times. In other words, if it were not the Holy Spirit, but merely the spirit of our times doing these things, how would it be different? How would you know?

In the peace of Christ,

- Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>It seems rather ironic that the point of the book is to &#8220;let the blue parakeets be blue parakeets, instead of trying to explain them away&#8221; while at the same time claiming that &#8220;The Pauline texts, which seem to exclude women from pastoral ministries, are essentially Paul having to speak in his own day in his own way&#8221;. It seems that, apparently, what counts as &#8220;explaining them away&#8221; is entirely subjective. One man&#8217;s &#8220;explaining them away&#8221; is another man&#8217;s &#8220;interpreting&#8221;.</p>
<p>And when you ask, &#8220;If the Spirit is today leading women to important ecclesiastical things, who are we to get in the way?&#8221;, I&#8217;m left wondering how exactly you know that it is the [Holy] Spirit doing these things, and not merely the spirit of our times. In other words, if it were not the Holy Spirit, but merely the spirit of our times doing these things, how would it be different? How would you know?</p>
<p>In the peace of Christ,</p>
<p>- Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Brendt Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendt Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, I don&#039;t think McKnight is preaching to the choir that much. While Ryan may be correct that the people who &lt;b&gt;most&lt;/b&gt; need it will ignore it, there are plenty of people like me who will read it, but aren&#039;t in the choir (at least yet).

Bob, &quot;Hermeneutical Loophole&quot; would be an awesome name for a rock band.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, I don&#8217;t think McKnight is preaching to the choir that much. While Ryan may be correct that the people who <b>most</b> need it will ignore it, there are plenty of people like me who will read it, but aren&#8217;t in the choir (at least yet).</p>
<p>Bob, &#8220;Hermeneutical Loophole&#8221; would be an awesome name for a rock band.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good and helpful review Ryan, thank you!

Your statement that: &quot;The Pauline texts, which seem to exclude women from pastoral ministries, are essentially Paul having to speak in his own day in his own way.&quot; I hope is not his major argument, because it creates a hermeneutical loophole that I could drive a truck through. 

Your review makes me want to read the book, and overall, I appreciate McKnight&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good and helpful review Ryan, thank you!</p>
<p>Your statement that: &#8220;The Pauline texts, which seem to exclude women from pastoral ministries, are essentially Paul having to speak in his own day in his own way.&#8221; I hope is not his major argument, because it creates a hermeneutical loophole that I could drive a truck through. </p>
<p>Your review makes me want to read the book, and overall, I appreciate McKnight&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the second review of Blue Parakeet that I have read, and it makes me really want to buy the book. I don&#039;t have the money right now and I have enough other books that I haven&#039;t read, but I think that Scot is a great writer and he has some good ideas.

But like you said, he is kinda preaching to the choir. I already know that people have a lens when the read scripture. How do we help people who don&#039;t realize they have a lens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second review of Blue Parakeet that I have read, and it makes me really want to buy the book. I don&#8217;t have the money right now and I have enough other books that I haven&#8217;t read, but I think that Scot is a great writer and he has some good ideas.</p>
<p>But like you said, he is kinda preaching to the choir. I already know that people have a lens when the read scripture. How do we help people who don&#8217;t realize they have a lens?</p>
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