Comments on: Now I’m Scared. Really. http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:14:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pam S. http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-530318 Pam S. Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:59:18 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-530318 The church age doesn't become completely irrelevant, but like the Apostle Paul says in Romans11, it is for making Israel jealous. Just saying what the Bible says, folks. The church age doesn’t become completely irrelevant, but like the Apostle Paul says in Romans11, it is for making Israel jealous. Just saying what the Bible says, folks.

]]> By: Pam S. http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-530317 Pam S. Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:55:50 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-530317 Not silly theology, by any means. I don't agree with John Hagee but I do agree with God ,and His Word makes it clear about His intentions for Israel. God did not annul His promises to them just because they failed , and if that is true, then no one has much hope. Study Romans 11 and you will see. Try Jim McClarty's website and it will become much clearer. The proof is there in the Abrahamic covenant for the land promises as well as the spiritual promise. They are forever. At least, that is what God said. If covenant theology proponents accept those promises made to Israel, then I guess you also must accept the curses. So I guess, like your title says, Now, you're really scared. All of the saved are saved by the blood of Christ, both Jew and Gentile and that is the spiritual aspect of the Abrahamic Covenant(by your seed will the families of the earth be blessed) but the land promise is confirmed in many scriptures to ISRAEL. 1Chronicles16:14-18 describes it as forever. Gen.13:15, as well. Plus all of the promises to Israel(church was not even in view at this time) that are found in Jer. 31, and all of the promises of restoration and the Lord's return in Zech 14 and Ezek.37 and 38. It is just foolish to spiritualize all this away. I pray that God opens eyes to the Truth because it brings many blessings. Not silly theology, by any means. I don’t agree with John Hagee but I do agree with God ,and His Word makes it clear about His intentions for Israel. God did not annul His promises to them just because they failed , and if that is true, then no one has much hope. Study Romans 11 and you will see. Try Jim McClarty’s website and it will become much clearer. The proof is there in the Abrahamic covenant for the land promises as well as the spiritual promise. They are forever. At least, that is what God said. If covenant theology proponents accept those promises made to Israel, then I guess you also must accept the curses. So I guess, like your title says, Now, you’re really scared. All of the saved are saved by the blood of Christ, both Jew and Gentile and that is the spiritual aspect of the Abrahamic Covenant(by your seed will the families of the earth be blessed) but the land promise is confirmed in many scriptures to ISRAEL. 1Chronicles16:14-18 describes it as forever. Gen.13:15, as well. Plus all of the promises to Israel(church was not even in view at this time) that are found in Jer. 31, and all of the promises of restoration and the Lord’s return in Zech 14 and Ezek.37 and 38. It is just foolish to spiritualize all this away.
I pray that God opens eyes to the Truth because it brings many blessings.

]]> By: Pam S. http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-530309 Pam S. Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:28:57 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-530309 I agree with you, John. But you probably won't convince many on the reformed blogs. The problem is that the Reformers didn't go far enough. Luther had an amill. backgound, coming out of the Catholic Church. I don't agree with John Hagee but I do agree with the pre-mill, pre-trib view. Otherwise, you have to spiritualize a great deal of the Bible. I, said on another blog, that dispensationalism was not invented and I was taken to task for it. The first century church was dispensationalist. Paul, in Romans 11, perfectly rebukes what this blog is stating. Jim McClarty is an excellent teacher on all of these things. Go to salvationbygrace.org and listen to his sermons. The John study is excellent. Most of the people who deny dispensationalism, don't really have a good understanding of the Old Testament. Sad but true. I believe one of the promises of God to Israel is, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. His promise to them to be a land, a people and a nation was forever. Thanks for your statement, John. I agree with you, John. But you probably won’t convince many on the reformed blogs. The problem is that the Reformers didn’t go far enough. Luther had an amill. backgound, coming out of the Catholic Church.
I don’t agree with John Hagee but I do agree with the pre-mill, pre-trib view. Otherwise, you have to spiritualize a great deal of the Bible.
I, said on another blog, that dispensationalism was not invented and I was taken to task for it. The first century church was dispensationalist. Paul, in Romans 11, perfectly rebukes what this blog is stating.
Jim McClarty is an excellent teacher on all of these things. Go to salvationbygrace.org and listen to his sermons. The John study is excellent. Most of the people who deny dispensationalism, don’t really have a good understanding of the Old Testament. Sad but true. I believe one of the promises of God to Israel is, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. His promise to them to be a land, a people and a nation was forever.
Thanks for your statement, John.

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-528710 Headless Unicorn Guy Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:19:19 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-528710 <i>In the end, it’s all war one way or the other.</i> -- Soceityvs Which is why somebody should have turned these guys on to Warhammer 40K instead of the Book of Revelation. Then they could indulge their "WAAAAAAAUGH -- DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!" without risk to the rest of us. Or collateral damage to the Middle East and the rest of the world. Hmmmm. The Gospel According to Warhammer 40K. Let's not go there (whether or not we say we did), but there are some parallels. "Thought begets Heresy. Heresy begets Retribution. Blessed is the mind too small for doubt." -- Warhammer 40K In the end, it’s all war one way or the other. — Soceityvs

Which is why somebody should have turned these guys on to Warhammer 40K instead of the Book of Revelation. Then they could indulge their “WAAAAAAAUGH — DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!” without risk to the rest of us. Or collateral damage to the Middle East and the rest of the world.

Hmmmm. The Gospel According to Warhammer 40K. Let’s not go there (whether or not we say we did), but there are some parallels.

“Thought begets Heresy. Heresy begets Retribution. Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.”
– Warhammer 40K

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-528309 Headless Unicorn Guy Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:33:49 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-528309 "NOW GIT ON THOSE TELEPHONES!" Internet Monk has a Gene Scott memorial posting somewhere in his archives. Now that guy was a character. Crazy Uncle at the Christian Family Reunion. “NOW GIT ON THOSE TELEPHONES!”

Internet Monk has a Gene Scott memorial posting somewhere in his archives. Now that guy was a character. Crazy Uncle at the Christian Family Reunion.

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-528307 Headless Unicorn Guy Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:32:03 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-528307 "Grinning Apocalyptism... Cheering as the world slides into the Pit." -- Internet Monk, "Marriage Made in Hell" “Grinning Apocalyptism… Cheering as the world slides into the Pit.”
– Internet Monk, “Marriage Made in Hell”

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-527705 Headless Unicorn Guy Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:20:03 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-527705 The American Evangelical Christian Race, of course. The American Evangelical Christian Race, of course.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-527624 Bryan Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:51:34 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-527624 "'What, you ask is the real attitude of the German people toward Hitler? There is but one answer. They love him...We want a true leader, a man who loves us, and works for our good. We are satisfied with Hitler.' And that feeling exists everywhere. Every true Christian is for Hitler. I know for it was from the Christians I got most of my information, and right or wrong, they endorse Adolph Hitler." This report was given by Oswald J. Smith, an evangelical Christian in 1936, reporting back to Toronto on how impressed he was with Hitler. One of those "evangelical nuts". Maybe you should revise what you term as ludicrous so that you can see that your theology does have consequences. -text taken from, Hitler's Cross, by Erwin Lutzer, pg. 109 “‘What, you ask is the real attitude of the German people toward Hitler? There is but one answer. They love him…We want a true leader, a man who loves us, and works for our good. We are satisfied with Hitler.’ And that feeling exists everywhere. Every true Christian is for Hitler. I know for it was from the Christians I got most of my information, and right or wrong, they endorse Adolph Hitler.”

This report was given by Oswald J. Smith, an evangelical Christian in 1936, reporting back to Toronto on how impressed he was with Hitler. One of those “evangelical nuts”. Maybe you should revise what you term as ludicrous so that you can see that your theology does have consequences.

-text taken from, Hitler’s Cross, by Erwin Lutzer, pg. 109

]]> By: Bryan http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-527523 Bryan Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:47:33 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-527523 "ludicrous theology. Plain and simple?" I think not. This dispensationalist theology is rooted in anti-semitism! How do you think these problems get started? I cannot agree with Hagee on a lot of his bland theology but I certainly support Israel. The church in America sees in very narrow parameters. How can you be ingrafted if it were not for the original vine having started in the form of Jewish believers in Israel, namely the first 12? The church in America needs to understand that there are Jewish unbelievers in need of the gospel too. God does not reneg on his covenant promises. “ludicrous theology. Plain and simple?” I think not. This dispensationalist theology is rooted in anti-semitism! How do you think these problems get started? I cannot agree with Hagee on a lot of his bland theology but I certainly support Israel. The church in America sees in very narrow parameters. How can you be ingrafted if it were not for the original vine having started in the form of Jewish believers in Israel, namely the first 12? The church in America needs to understand that there are Jewish unbelievers in need of the gospel too. God does not reneg on his covenant promises.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/now-im-scared-really/comment-page-1#comment-527520 Bryan Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:32:35 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/?p=5913#comment-527520 On that note, I can agree with you. On that note, I can agree with you.

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