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		<title>By: prudencia</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-488170</link>
		<dc:creator>prudencia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really Sam Chelladurai uncle&#039;s messages are so good.Pls dont blame him.Who are we to condemn other man&#039;s servant.Just dont justify.Coz Sam uncle is so good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Sam Chelladurai uncle&#8217;s messages are so good.Pls dont blame him.Who are we to condemn other man&#8217;s servant.Just dont justify.Coz Sam uncle is so good.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dileep</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dileep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Brothers in Christ,
  
I&#039;ve read all your posted comments. Its good to see the people being so much interested in Christ and Christ alone. I believe, this desire in us, is for God and for His Glory. He shaped that in us. 

I felt this and so writing.

Our Father has not left us alone to be orphans, but thanks be to Him that He sent His Spirit to live within us. And now The Holy Spirit leads us into the &quot;TRUTH&quot; ( Jesus Himself is the TRUTH). Apart from Christ, everything is FALSE. Don&#039;t and never believe it, don&#039;t give chance even to think for a moment. That&#039;s useless and worthless. 

The very purpose of every christian is to know God Who is living and to have deeper fellowship with Him. This has been gifted to us through our LORD JESUS. I don&#039;t and I cant find any way ( any message, any method or any one ) who can help me to have the deeper fellowship with God the Father.
I can never miss JESUS, I can never think of any other possibility out side of JESUS, cause there&#039;s no possible way. The only WAY is JESUS.

The better life can never be achieved by following better principles, but it can only be achieved by having CHRIST in us, cause HE is the LIFE.

&quot;JESUS IS THE WAY, THE LIFE AND THE TRUTH&quot;

I&#039;m over whelmed in my heart after reading this, cause you all have that very deep desire to know the very purpose of GOD, WHO is your Creator.

Let&#039;s live for HIM, Let&#039;s be challenged to LIVE for the King of kings and the Lord of lords. All the people, in all the generations (from Abel to the recent martyr), have stood for this TRUTH(JESUS). Let&#039;s also live for HIM.

Every one in the world needs JESUS. I decided this,
let HIS Name be preached, heard and glorified in all. 

Paul preached &quot;the CHRIST&quot;. And he told,&quot;It&#039;s no longer I, but Christ&quot;. 

But, now-a-days, there are many false prophets,preachers who&#039;ve entered into the Kingdom of God. Many people were deceived and went after them. (1Tim 4:1-6).

As these are the last days, the satan will appear like an &#039;angel of light&#039;, which is very similar to the appearance of the our Lord&#039;s. But the way to find out is &#039;the wounds&#039;. Jesus has those wounds, bacuase He was wounded for our sins.

If no cross, no salvation. No meaning in gathering for any christian meetings. Its the cross of Jesus that made a covenant in between GOD and me, the wretched.


Brothers and sisters, let&#039;s invest our time in knowing GOD than investing it for useless and purpose-less works.

Lets not judge anyone, because we will be judged one day. With the measure we use, will be measured back to us. Our Lord told us not to judge rather lets pray for those who did mistakes. Let&#039;s us not be disturbed in our faith because some one did something wrong. God loved all by individually. So its important for us to keep our faith on HIM.

But take care to follow the TRUTH(JESUS). I cant see anything out of JESUS, but GOD gave JESUS who is everything. Lets grab HIM, lets get HIM into our lives. Let our lives show HIS LIFE.

I am sorry if I had bothered you with lengthy message.

&quot;As your Heavenly Father is perfect(In love,In forgiving,In caring,In all), ye also be perfect(In all).&quot;

In Christ,
David Dileep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Brothers in Christ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read all your posted comments. Its good to see the people being so much interested in Christ and Christ alone. I believe, this desire in us, is for God and for His Glory. He shaped that in us. </p>
<p>I felt this and so writing.</p>
<p>Our Father has not left us alone to be orphans, but thanks be to Him that He sent His Spirit to live within us. And now The Holy Spirit leads us into the &#8220;TRUTH&#8221; ( Jesus Himself is the TRUTH). Apart from Christ, everything is FALSE. Don&#8217;t and never believe it, don&#8217;t give chance even to think for a moment. That&#8217;s useless and worthless. </p>
<p>The very purpose of every christian is to know God Who is living and to have deeper fellowship with Him. This has been gifted to us through our LORD JESUS. I don&#8217;t and I cant find any way ( any message, any method or any one ) who can help me to have the deeper fellowship with God the Father.<br />
I can never miss JESUS, I can never think of any other possibility out side of JESUS, cause there&#8217;s no possible way. The only WAY is JESUS.</p>
<p>The better life can never be achieved by following better principles, but it can only be achieved by having CHRIST in us, cause HE is the LIFE.</p>
<p>&#8220;JESUS IS THE WAY, THE LIFE AND THE TRUTH&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m over whelmed in my heart after reading this, cause you all have that very deep desire to know the very purpose of GOD, WHO is your Creator.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s live for HIM, Let&#8217;s be challenged to LIVE for the King of kings and the Lord of lords. All the people, in all the generations (from Abel to the recent martyr), have stood for this TRUTH(JESUS). Let&#8217;s also live for HIM.</p>
<p>Every one in the world needs JESUS. I decided this,<br />
let HIS Name be preached, heard and glorified in all. </p>
<p>Paul preached &#8220;the CHRIST&#8221;. And he told,&#8221;It&#8217;s no longer I, but Christ&#8221;. </p>
<p>But, now-a-days, there are many false prophets,preachers who&#8217;ve entered into the Kingdom of God. Many people were deceived and went after them. (1<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Tim+4%3A1-6" class="bibleref" title="ESV Tim 4:1-6">Tim 4:1-6</a>).</p>
<p>As these are the last days, the satan will appear like an &#8216;angel of light&#8217;, which is very similar to the appearance of the our Lord&#8217;s. But the way to find out is &#8216;the wounds&#8217;. Jesus has those wounds, bacuase He was wounded for our sins.</p>
<p>If no cross, no salvation. No meaning in gathering for any christian meetings. Its the cross of Jesus that made a covenant in between GOD and me, the wretched.</p>
<p>Brothers and sisters, let&#8217;s invest our time in knowing GOD than investing it for useless and purpose-less works.</p>
<p>Lets not judge anyone, because we will be judged one day. With the measure we use, will be measured back to us. Our Lord told us not to judge rather lets pray for those who did mistakes. Let&#8217;s us not be disturbed in our faith because some one did something wrong. God loved all by individually. So its important for us to keep our faith on HIM.</p>
<p>But take care to follow the TRUTH(JESUS). I cant see anything out of JESUS, but GOD gave JESUS who is everything. Lets grab HIM, lets get HIM into our lives. Let our lives show HIS LIFE.</p>
<p>I am sorry if I had bothered you with lengthy message.</p>
<p>&#8220;As your Heavenly Father is perfect(In love,In forgiving,In caring,In all), ye also be perfect(In all).&#8221;</p>
<p>In Christ,<br />
David Dileep</p>
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		<title>By: anu</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-312203</link>
		<dc:creator>anu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear my friends in christ
                      we dont have any right to judge other,or wasting time in thinking who is right and who is wrong so pls think about the way how we can together reach the unreached one tell them love of christ.No body is Perfect in this world Except Christ.
                  so think about the ways  to make the people chose the right messages.
                         anu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear my friends in christ<br />
                      we dont have any right to judge other,or wasting time in thinking who is right and who is wrong so pls think about the way how we can together reach the unreached one tell them love of christ.No body is Perfect in this world Except Christ.<br />
                  so think about the ways  to make the people chose the right messages.<br />
                         anu</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-311275</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have fallen for the lie that Jesus came to make us better. He didn&#039;t. He came because we were dead and needed life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have fallen for the lie that Jesus came to make us better. He didn&#8217;t. He came because we were dead and needed life.</p>
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		<title>By: proslaviy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-288011</link>
		<dc:creator>proslaviy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, how I can send PM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, how I can send PM?</p>
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		<title>By: V.Rajan</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-266070</link>
		<dc:creator>V.Rajan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One Mr.Leslie has written on 21.4.08 in this blog about Rev Chelladurai. His messages has the foundation from Jesus Christ only. Let me briefly say what he says. He says When God created the world He gave the command to man to RULE THE WORLD. God having created man in His image gave him the right to chose the good or evil. Even to day we all have the right to chose. Eve heard the voice of Satan and chose evil follwed by Adam. Therefore the Satan&#039;s Rule came over the world. But Jesus Christ came in the form of man and defeated Satan on the cross and by having Christ in us and by praying in teh name of Jesus Christ we execute power over Satan and we have teh Right to Rule over the earth snatched back from Satan by Jesus Christ. 
I am sur He is glorifying Jesus Chrsit only. Either heard the sermon of Sam Chelladurai accidentaly and not his many messages. 
Hence better we stop making judgments in this world which is forbidden by Jesus Christ himself.
V.Rajan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One Mr.Leslie has written on 21.4.08 in this blog about Rev Chelladurai. His messages has the foundation from Jesus Christ only. Let me briefly say what he says. He says When God created the world He gave the command to man to RULE THE WORLD. God having created man in His image gave him the right to chose the good or evil. Even to day we all have the right to chose. Eve heard the voice of Satan and chose evil follwed by Adam. Therefore the Satan&#8217;s Rule came over the world. But Jesus Christ came in the form of man and defeated Satan on the cross and by having Christ in us and by praying in teh name of Jesus Christ we execute power over Satan and we have teh Right to Rule over the earth snatched back from Satan by Jesus Christ.<br />
I am sur He is glorifying Jesus Chrsit only. Either heard the sermon of Sam Chelladurai accidentaly and not his many messages.<br />
Hence better we stop making judgments in this world which is forbidden by Jesus Christ himself.<br />
V.Rajan</p>
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		<title>By: Renee Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-235795</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I know I&#039;m late reading it, but I hope to see more posts like this around the internet. I have blogged about Christless Christianity a couple of times this year (as a layperson looking for a church after moving). Here is my second post:  http://mousenaround.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/more-christless-christianity/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I know I&#8217;m late reading it, but I hope to see more posts like this around the internet. I have blogged about Christless Christianity a couple of times this year (as a layperson looking for a church after moving). Here is my second post:  <a href="http://mousenaround.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/more-christless-christianity/" rel="nofollow">http://mousenaround.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/more-christless-christianity/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Spadino</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-232341</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Spadino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preach on about the Gospel Brother!  Have you heard of Tim Keller. Stop over to my website and check out some video of him.  I like his Gospel-centric approach.  

http://spadinofamily.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preach on about the Gospel Brother!  Have you heard of Tim Keller. Stop over to my website and check out some video of him.  I like his Gospel-centric approach.  </p>
<p><a href="http://spadinofamily.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://spadinofamily.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Newell</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-231952</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

I willing take no credit for this.  This is 100% Issues, Etc. (RIP) and 0% mine.  

I just found that this technique that Todd uses is so good that it should be used by anyone who wants to know if they are listening to a Christian Sermon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>I willing take no credit for this.  This is 100% Issues, Etc. (RIP) and 0% mine.  </p>
<p>I just found that this technique that Todd uses is so good that it should be used by anyone who wants to know if they are listening to a Christian Sermon.</p>
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		<title>By: John D. Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/no-jesus-needed/comment-page-2#comment-231564</link>
		<dc:creator>John D. Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Thank you for revisiting this topic and for bringing your readers&#039; attention to your article &quot;On Christless Preaching&quot;. It was this article that first brought me to your website some time ago. I share your lament over the absence of Christ in much of today&#039;s preaching.

Here are a couple of quotes from a priceless little book on the subject by Charles P. McIlvaine (1799-1873) entitled &quot;Preaching Christ&quot;. First, McIlvaine explaining that religious truth is not enough:

&quot;It is very possible to preach a great deal of important religious truth, and so that there shall be no admixture of important error in doctrine or precept - yea, truth having an important relation to Christ and his office - and yet not to preach Christ. The defect will be, not in the presence of what should not be there, but in the absence of that which is necessary to give all truth delivered the character of &#039;truth as it is in Jesus&#039;. Such absence, when nevertheless all is true, may be more destructive to the gospel character of the preaching than even the introduction of some positive error. The preaching may be very earnest. It may contain much that is affecting and deeply impressive - strong emotions may be stirred in the hearers. The earnest inquiry may be excited. What must we do? And yet the preaching may wholly fail in giving any such distinct answer to that question as will turn the attention of the inquirer to Christ as all his refuge. You may say a great deal about and around the gospel, and never preach the gospel&quot; (9-10). 

Second, McIlvaine describing the disappointment of those who hunger for Christ to be present in preaching and yet find Him absent:

“They that come to be elevated in their affections to things above, and to be fed with the bread of heaven, are sorely disappointed. They came to see Jesus. They have seen only that man in the pulpit and his empty abstractions. They asked bread, and he gave them a stone” (19).

In Christ,

John Ward


In case your interested in the book:

Charles P. McIlvaine. Preaching Christ: The Heart of Gospel Ministry. (Banner of Truth, 2003. First published 1863.) 

NOTE: The book includes the first sermon preached by Spurgeon in the Metropolitan Tabernacle, London in 1861. His text for the sermon: Acts 5:42, &quot;And daily in the temple, and in very house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Thank you for revisiting this topic and for bringing your readers&#8217; attention to your article &#8220;On Christless Preaching&#8221;. It was this article that first brought me to your website some time ago. I share your lament over the absence of Christ in much of today&#8217;s preaching.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of quotes from a priceless little book on the subject by Charles P. McIlvaine (1799-1873) entitled &#8220;Preaching Christ&#8221;. First, McIlvaine explaining that religious truth is not enough:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is very possible to preach a great deal of important religious truth, and so that there shall be no admixture of important error in doctrine or precept &#8211; yea, truth having an important relation to Christ and his office &#8211; and yet not to preach Christ. The defect will be, not in the presence of what should not be there, but in the absence of that which is necessary to give all truth delivered the character of &#8216;truth as it is in Jesus&#8217;. Such absence, when nevertheless all is true, may be more destructive to the gospel character of the preaching than even the introduction of some positive error. The preaching may be very earnest. It may contain much that is affecting and deeply impressive &#8211; strong emotions may be stirred in the hearers. The earnest inquiry may be excited. What must we do? And yet the preaching may wholly fail in giving any such distinct answer to that question as will turn the attention of the inquirer to Christ as all his refuge. You may say a great deal about and around the gospel, and never preach the gospel&#8221; (9-10). </p>
<p>Second, McIlvaine describing the disappointment of those who hunger for Christ to be present in preaching and yet find Him absent:</p>
<p>“They that come to be elevated in their affections to things above, and to be fed with the bread of heaven, are sorely disappointed. They came to see Jesus. They have seen only that man in the pulpit and his empty abstractions. They asked bread, and he gave them a stone” (19).</p>
<p>In Christ,</p>
<p>John Ward</p>
<p>In case your interested in the book:</p>
<p>Charles P. McIlvaine. Preaching Christ: The Heart of Gospel Ministry. (Banner of Truth, 2003. First published 1863.) </p>
<p>NOTE: The book includes the first sermon preached by Spurgeon in the Metropolitan Tabernacle, London in 1861. His text for the sermon: <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+5%3A42" class="bibleref" title="ESV Acts 5:42">Acts 5:42</a>, &#8220;And daily in the temple, and in very house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.&#8221;</p>
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