Comments on: Lessons from a Lousy Referee http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:48:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: iMonk http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee/comment-page-1#comment-287574 iMonk Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:21:18 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee#comment-287574 Myrddin, You've nailed the kind of person I immediately thought of. I'm meeting so many young theologically oriented pastors who need to understand that Jesus didn't call them to be referees or sheriffs, but servants and shepherds. The essentially positive aspect of ministry eludes a lot of people. It's incredibly tempting in these declining times to become doctrinal watchdogs and personal busybodies instead of Jesus shaped leaders. ______________ And I hope all my readers will hear this sentence: pursuing a Jesus shaped direction for life and ministry is what I am all about. I've settled that one, and no one is going to discourage me. Readers: This is my door, and I'm nailing stuff to it. Read it or walk by. It doesn't matter to me. I'm preaching to myself and whomever the Spirit chooses. peace MS Myrddin,

You’ve nailed the kind of person I immediately thought of. I’m meeting so many young theologically oriented pastors who need to understand that Jesus didn’t call them to be referees or sheriffs, but servants and shepherds.

The essentially positive aspect of ministry eludes a lot of people. It’s incredibly tempting in these declining times to become doctrinal watchdogs and personal busybodies instead of Jesus shaped leaders.
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And I hope all my readers will hear this sentence: pursuing a Jesus shaped direction for life and ministry is what I am all about. I’ve settled that one, and no one is going to discourage me.

Readers: This is my door, and I’m nailing stuff to it. Read it or walk by. It doesn’t matter to me. I’m preaching to myself and whomever the Spirit chooses.

peace

MS

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One fellow told another, in delighted satisfaction, the story of a young Reformed pastor who had taken a local pulpit and ‘started preaching the truth about the doctrines of grace.’ 80% of the people had left, the man reported, and now the pastor really had something to start working with.

]]> By: iMonk http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee/comment-page-1#comment-287542 iMonk Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:45:57 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee#comment-287542 I said I was going to laugh, didn't I? I said I was going to laugh, didn’t I?

]]> By: Steve Scott http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee/comment-page-1#comment-287294 Steve Scott Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:19:19 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee#comment-287294 Sounds like the story of my life trying to serve in Christian "ministry." It seems rare when a "leader" (whether in church, politics, etc.) truly understands that his actions can affect everybody in a huge way. Yes, it is draining. Overlording and micromanaging are cancers to human hope. I think I'll take a few decades off from official church ministry and remain free lance. I'm glad you found such a good picture from a Friday night out with da boys. Sounds like the story of my life trying to serve in Christian “ministry.” It seems rare when a “leader” (whether in church, politics, etc.) truly understands that his actions can affect everybody in a huge way. Yes, it is draining. Overlording and micromanaging are cancers to human hope. I think I’ll take a few decades off from official church ministry and remain free lance. I’m glad you found such a good picture from a Friday night out with da boys.

]]> By: Ian Kirk http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee/comment-page-1#comment-287017 Ian Kirk Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:16:29 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee#comment-287017 "With the last 12 minutes left, everyone on the field was out of it, and even the crowd was silent with disgust." This reminds me of Augustine's statement: “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity”. I think charity and grace are in pretty short supply in world in general, and as the church (which is supposed to be,in my opinion, the home of both) the lack of both is even more apparent. I will freely say that I am trying to learn it as well. Without grace and charity, it is hard to get along, and all one's energy will get sucked out of you. Thanks for this, Michael. While there seems to be an overabundance of poor athletic comparisons out there, I think you have found a good one. “With the last 12 minutes left, everyone on the field was out of it, and even the crowd was silent with disgust.”

This reminds me of Augustine’s statement: “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity”.

I think charity and grace are in pretty short supply in world in general, and as the church (which is supposed to be,in my opinion, the home of both) the lack of both is even more apparent. I will freely say that I am trying to learn it as well.

Without grace and charity, it is hard to get along, and all one’s energy will get sucked out of you.

Thanks for this, Michael. While there seems to be an overabundance of poor athletic comparisons out there, I think you have found a good one.

]]> By: Wade Phillips http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee/comment-page-1#comment-286947 Wade Phillips Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:51:55 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/leadership-lessons-from-a-lousy-referee#comment-286947 Were you at the same game I was at last night? Probably not, since I'm in Mississippi. Nevertheless, I'm feeling both the literal and metaphorical points you were trying to make. Were you at the same game I was at last night? Probably not, since I’m in Mississippi. Nevertheless, I’m feeling both the literal and metaphorical points you were trying to make.

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