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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/joy-in-the-journey/comment-page-1#comment-521215</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Joy must not be reserved for the end of the journey. We must also find vistas â€œwithin sight of the City,â€ where we can get some respite from our toilsome trek, where we can anticipate the celebration to come and rest for the journeyâ€™s final leg.&lt;/i&gt;

On another blog, someone posted &quot;Christians have got to speak of hope other than The Second Coming.&quot;  Especially when the Zeitgeist of the period is Hopeless Despair, from Global Warming to Mayan Calendars -- We&#039;re All Gonna Die, It&#039;s Already Too Late, It&#039;s All Over But The Screaming.  At which point, talking about The Second Coming is just a Christian version of 2012, just another End of the World cult smacking its lips in glee, and at best offering a fire escape.

And when everything is Hopeless Despair -- only waiting for The End -- people either kill themselves, go crazy, or grab for anyone who claims he has a way out.  We&#039;ve seen a textbook example of this in the past few decades culminating in last year&#039;s election, as Christians were on the &quot;It&#039;s All Gonna Burn -- Don&#039;t Be Left Behind!!&quot; bandwagon until all some fast-tracked Chicago Machine pol had to do was stand in front of a teleprompter and say &quot;HOPE! CHANGE! HOPECHANGE!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Joy must not be reserved for the end of the journey. We must also find vistas â€œwithin sight of the City,â€ where we can get some respite from our toilsome trek, where we can anticipate the celebration to come and rest for the journeyâ€™s final leg.</i></p>
<p>On another blog, someone posted &#8220;Christians have got to speak of hope other than The Second Coming.&#8221;  Especially when the Zeitgeist of the period is Hopeless Despair, from Global Warming to Mayan Calendars &#8212; We&#8217;re All Gonna Die, It&#8217;s Already Too Late, It&#8217;s All Over But The Screaming.  At which point, talking about The Second Coming is just a Christian version of 2012, just another End of the World cult smacking its lips in glee, and at best offering a fire escape.</p>
<p>And when everything is Hopeless Despair &#8212; only waiting for The End &#8212; people either kill themselves, go crazy, or grab for anyone who claims he has a way out.  We&#8217;ve seen a textbook example of this in the past few decades culminating in last year&#8217;s election, as Christians were on the &#8220;It&#8217;s All Gonna Burn &#8212; Don&#8217;t Be Left Behind!!&#8221; bandwagon until all some fast-tracked Chicago Machine pol had to do was stand in front of a teleprompter and say &#8220;HOPE! CHANGE! HOPECHANGE!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: the invitation of Advent &#171; listening to the wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>the invitation of Advent &#171; listening to the wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matthew Robert Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/joy-in-the-journey/comment-page-1#comment-521173</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Robert Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have to be able to praise God in all things. Even in chronic trial we can enter into the joy of the Lord. Lovely post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to be able to praise God in all things. Even in chronic trial we can enter into the joy of the Lord. Lovely post</p>
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		<title>By: JoanieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoanieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had never heard that song before, Michael Bell.  Very pretty being sung by those young boys.  Quite the setting they are singing it in, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never heard that song before, Michael Bell.  Very pretty being sung by those young boys.  Quite the setting they are singing it in, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Christiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can appreciate the &#039;color-coding&#039;  coming from my Catholic faith.   In times ancient  up until the middle ages, few people could read.   Visual presentations in Churches were important to them.   The connection with these Christians is still there:  in the Body of Christ.   And the keeping of the old ways ties us to them in memory of their way of worshipping.   Not a bad thing at all.   Like going the Church and &#039;being present&#039; with Christians of the past as we celebrate an ancient liturgy in communion with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can appreciate the &#8216;color-coding&#8217;  coming from my Catholic faith.   In times ancient  up until the middle ages, few people could read.   Visual presentations in Churches were important to them.   The connection with these Christians is still there:  in the Body of Christ.   And the keeping of the old ways ties us to them in memory of their way of worshipping.   Not a bad thing at all.   Like going the Church and &#8216;being present&#8217; with Christians of the past as we celebrate an ancient liturgy in communion with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Christiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would they light a candle if  had no real meaning in their worship?
I think they should be true to who they are,  and enter into liturgical worship models only when they are meanngful for them.    
I would like to see them &#039;made aware&#039; of some of the possibilities, but I would like to see it done respectfully.   Sarcasm is a tool of religious fundamentalism.  Sarcasm has no place in communications between Christian brothers and sisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would they light a candle if  had no real meaning in their worship?<br />
I think they should be true to who they are,  and enter into liturgical worship models only when they are meanngful for them.<br />
I would like to see them &#8216;made aware&#8217; of some of the possibilities, but I would like to see it done respectfully.   Sarcasm is a tool of religious fundamentalism.  Sarcasm has no place in communications between Christian brothers and sisters.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therese Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, THAT&#039;s wonderful Christian geekery! I can&#039;t wait to try that out on....uh,......someone&#039;s GOT to think this is interesting in my life!

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, THAT&#8217;s wonderful Christian geekery! I can&#8217;t wait to try that out on&#8230;.uh,&#8230;&#8230;someone&#8217;s GOT to think this is interesting in my life!</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Ernesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the truly and utterly liturgical geeks among you, what is the difference between the colors of pink and rose?

If you were a painter, then pink is a mixture of red and white colors. Rose is a mixture of violet and white colors. Thus, the liturgical meaning of the color rose (which is NOT pink) is the lightening of the fast (violet) with a bit of the joy of the Resurrection and the hope to come (white).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the truly and utterly liturgical geeks among you, what is the difference between the colors of pink and rose?</p>
<p>If you were a painter, then pink is a mixture of red and white colors. Rose is a mixture of violet and white colors. Thus, the liturgical meaning of the color rose (which is NOT pink) is the lightening of the fast (violet) with a bit of the joy of the Resurrection and the hope to come (white).</p>
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		<title>By: Therese Z</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/joy-in-the-journey/comment-page-1#comment-521142</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they light birthday candles on a cake, surely they can light a candle in church without going straight over to Rome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they light birthday candles on a cake, surely they can light a candle in church without going straight over to Rome.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Gonzaga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Gonzaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know that I can rejoice.

I had a funeral for a friend&#039;s father this weekend.  So this blog is close to to home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know that I can rejoice.</p>
<p>I had a funeral for a friend&#8217;s father this weekend.  So this blog is close to to home.</p>
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