October 17, 2017

Internet Monk Radio Podcast #163

podcast_logo.gifThis week: Review of Collision. Culture War Story. Lessons Moving from Church to Real World.

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Comments

  1. Micheal if your #6 blog who are the other 5?

    p.s. thanks for all you do!

  2. Transition from Pastor to the real world happened to me, a former missionary. Don’t really understand why it all happened; I suppose being a non-denominational missionary factored in. The real world pressure was making a career decission at age 45. People I have met don’t really seem interested in my missionary stories. They will ask questions about my motorcycle, discuss meanings of old rock music… all those “secular” things. BTW, my old Christian friendships did sort of “vaporize” before my eyes. My social contacts are now those with whom I work with, meet at Biker rallies, in other words those mostly outside the church. Those in the big church I attend seem to be too busy to include newcomers into their circle. I am still left stuggling with questions of why am I not “in the ministry” any more. Thanks imonk for providing a bit of fellowship for this sojourner and letting me vent alittle.

    • Hi Henry,
      My husband and I have gone through a similar transition this past year. I think we will be doing “church” without walls. I was not connecting with those that struggle to know God in any real sense through church attendance alone.
      I have found that those who struggle to know God are found in recovery groups. I would say that my Monday night DA group is church for me. The distressed and diseased are best served out side the church it seems.

      Your ministry maybe not where you expect to find it in the traditional sense. If I could encourage you I would ask, who do you have compassion for? they’re the people God will lead you to.
      When Jesus looked to the multitude his compassion took the shape of him being the Good Shepherd and seen them in that context.
      All the best,
      Siobhan

    • Henry, after 18 years of serving in a church my husband and I also found ourselves outside the walls. I felt that I had lost everything… job, ministry and friends. I struggled for a decade before I could begin to trust in the organized church again. But during those years, I found my ministry to be with Special Olympics. I can attest to Siobhan’s statement that “the distressed and diseased are best served outside the church” God will lead you to a group of hurting and vulnerable people that need your ministry and can offer healing to you as well. . And if/when He leads you back to a structured body of believers, it will be with a new giftedness for ministry.

  3. The “Collision” website has the following link to Lisa Miller’s review of the movie:

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/219009

    Here’s an amusing quote:

    “We have allowed three people (Harris, Dawkins, and Hitchens ) to frame it [faith-reason debate]; its terms—submitting God to rational proofs and watching God fail—are theirs…The atheists are, more than other interest groups, joyous cannibals and regurgitators of their own ideas. They thrive online, where like adolescent boys they rehash their rhetorical victories to their own delight…The whole thing has started to feel like being trapped in a seminar room with the three smartest guys in school, each showing off to impress … whom?”

    The reign of the new atheist glamor boys may be coming to an end. I wonder if Christians should have stepped left and let them make fools out of themselves; instead, we got sucked into yet another fight which makes us look equally ridiculous. It reminds me of how “The Last Temptation of Christ” was a very bad, obscure movie until evangelicals started ranting about it.

    All still is not well for the defenders of faith. Miller makes clear that there are other voices willing to defend atheism in more poetic and less confrontational, scientific terms. They may actually be a greater challenge. At a time when evangelicalism is dominated by pragmatism, who is there who can express faith poetically, deeply, thoughtfully, profoundly, addressing the “why” questions behind the meaning of life? Evangelism has become about winning debates rather than souls.

  4. http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-10-28-pastor_suicides_N.htm

    USA today article on Southern Pastors and suicides

  5. monk,

    great podcast as always, one question, and it’s a little snarky:) were those sleighbells in the background, what did keep hearing rattle around? am i hearng things are did anyone else hear it

    • I heard it. Although, we didn’t hear the Panasonic breadmaker. 🙂

    • Headless Unicorn Guy says:

      …were those sleighbells in the background…

      Well, it was Halloween; maybe that was the Christian (TM) station playing Christmas music to Counter the Devil?

      “Sleigh bells ring, will you listen,
      (something something) snow will glisten;
      (Doo doo dee doo doo
      Doo doo dee doo doo)
      Walking in a Winter Wonderland…”

  6. My dog, Maisie

  7. Headless Unicorn Guy says:

    IMonk, what’s the source of that sound bite at the start, the one with the fingernails-on-a-chalkboard voice going: “I’ve figured out what to do with our sinner children”? It sounds surreal.

    • HUG – That’s the Mom from “That 70s Show”. Sorry, can’t remember her name.

      • Never saw the show but I recognized it. I love Patrick Warburton’s, “That sound more trouble than a moose on the interstate.”

        If I could get my wife to hear Tom Hanks, “There’s no crying in baseball!”, I bet she’d give Monk a spin on the old iPod. 🙂

      • Debra Jo Rupp.

  8. The Reds were not the last team to win back to back World Series. The Yankees did it, back to back to back actually, in 1998, 1999 and 2000. The Reds were however the last NATIONAL LEAGUE team to do it in 1975 and 1976. Which is still true since the Phillies weren’t able to accomplish it this year.

  9. On a more serious subject than baseball history, I really appreciate your comment that there is a difference between friendship and social networking.

    Here’s a quote on that topic………The most memorable people in life will be the friends who loved you when you were not very lovable.