Comments on: Internet Monk Radio Podcast #160

By: JoanieD

JoanieD — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:05:13 +0000

“Scripture, Reason, Tradition, and Experience.”

Makes great sense to me, too, Miguel.

By: Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:57:23 +0000

When you said “spending 25 hours in the study to give the REAL meaning”, I couldn’t help but think of Gnosticism. The essence of Gnosticism is “Secret Meanings” known only to the Special Enlightened.

By: oscar

oscar — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:52:39 +0000

Its sad that nature seems to pull some from the christianity they learned. Nature kept me believing in God and then when I read the bible while in nature it became a deep and natural “incarnational” experience. I had to fight to keep it during decades of evangelicalism (allot of good happened though) and now moving ever more into the Orthodox and Catholic world it only deepens my original experience. Feels as if the depth is only to become richer and deeper.
Dont let anything rob the reality.

By: willoh

willoh — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:47:48 +0000

a satirical comment.

By: willoh

willoh — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:46:47 +0000

While I enjoyed your sermon, there was a part right after the explanation of the Rich Young Ruler, that caused me to examine myself, and made me uncomfortable with my own commitment to Jesus. i am sure that was not your intention, as it makes no sense to cause discomfort in a volunteer setting. Perhaps your ministry would be more successful in terms of donation and attendance if you refrained from such commentary. Did the apostle not say ,”first not to offend?”

By: Martha

Martha — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:59:08 +0000

Okay, I’m getting my denial in first here.

When you read in the papers or hear on the wireless or see on the television news about “Entire parish stricken by strange contaminant in Communion chalice!” it will totally *not* be my fault for encouraging the sacristan to brew his own altar wine from mouldy grapes strained through his old socks, mmmkay?

By: Miguel

Miguel — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:52:31 +0000

I’ve only been listening for about a year, but this is my favorite podcast so far. Lotsa stuff I wish I’d of heard years ago. A hearty amen to the part about the preaching. The problem is, it is near impossible to convince verse-by-verse types that there actually might be a better way of doing things. It is class 1 “chronological snobbery”, imo, in that this level of deep exegesis from a graduate level trained seminary graduate is, I am pretty sure, a phenomenon of the most recent period of Christianity. The gospel went out to the world just fine without it for the hundreds of years, and I don’t think that we are the first generation to have finally got it right. A useful tool, yes, but the best way of doing things? I feel that I’d rather be a part of a tradition who thinks that their methods are NOT the best there are so that we are always open to the Holy Spirit leading us to better things.

By: Miguel

Miguel — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:45:39 +0000

Amen and amen. I hate it when somebody starts a specific doctrinal statement with the phrase…
“The Bible CLEARLY says….” because outside of the gospel itself, history shows such a diversity of opinion of what is says I begin to wonder if it says anything clearly. I am a big subscriber to the Weslyan quadrilateral: Scripture, Reason, Tradition, and Experience. I feel like it is really parallel to philosophical egoism, in that they both apply to everyone. The only difference is those who know they use it, those who don’t know about it, and those who deny they use it. But in reality, there is no such thing as scripture apart from reason or tradition. And without experience, well then, what would we really have to discuss anyways? The sooner we quit denying our reliance upon all four we can start putting them to proper use under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:38:11 +0000

Patrick: I know, right? “When one member suffers….” If you haven’t read the Winner write-up, there there are some turn-of-the-twentieth-century white people living in Hawaii that score an epic Christianity fail.

By: Patrick Lynch

Patrick Lynch — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:21:11 +0000

I’m not much for hand-holding or aisle-crossing – I wouldn’t do it on my own, and being obliged to by others people’s customs makes me feel hollow and resentful kind of – but I’m all for a common cup BECAUSE you can get other people’s diseases from it. If passing cups between us was good enough for Jesus, it should be good enough for me.