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	<title>Comments on: iMonk Classic: Too Much Heaven?</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535234</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 03:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, saying that we will &quot;be like the angels in heaven&quot; doesn&#039;t really help, since we don&#039;t know anything about them. Sometimes I wonder if Jesus didn&#039;t occasionally refer to a piece of well-known Jewish mythology or folklore that has been lost of forgotten since that time. Or maybe I just need to make some inquiries at my local synagogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, saying that we will &#8220;be like the angels in heaven&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really help, since we don&#8217;t know anything about them. Sometimes I wonder if Jesus didn&#8217;t occasionally refer to a piece of well-known Jewish mythology or folklore that has been lost of forgotten since that time. Or maybe I just need to make some inquiries at my local synagogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535232</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 03:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May it be so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May it be so.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelby Carlson</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535206</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelby Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I wonder is--what will a new creation be like without children? Because apparently there will be no marriage. Does that mean my future spouse and I will no longer have a covenant in Heaven?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I wonder is&#8211;what will a new creation be like without children? Because apparently there will be no marriage. Does that mean my future spouse and I will no longer have a covenant in Heaven?</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535195</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 20:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In that city they would be with all their friends, relatives and Bible characters forever, where they would worship Jesus for all of eternity without illness, pain or death.&lt;/i&gt;

You know how I want to &quot;worship Jesus for all of eternity&quot;?  By living life without illness, pain, or death to cut everything short and unfinished.  I want my dead dreams resurrected into reality.  I want the love of a woman (human or not) instead of another rejection.  I want time to finish all that I can dream and do.  Write and storytell the epic.  Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In that city they would be with all their friends, relatives and Bible characters forever, where they would worship Jesus for all of eternity without illness, pain or death.</i></p>
<p>You know how I want to &#8220;worship Jesus for all of eternity&#8221;?  By living life without illness, pain, or death to cut everything short and unfinished.  I want my dead dreams resurrected into reality.  I want the love of a woman (human or not) instead of another rejection.  I want time to finish all that I can dream and do.  Write and storytell the epic.  Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535184</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  Bear in mind, enforced testimony time and Jesus pep-bands last only an hour or so.  Can you imagine an eternity of that?  I&#039;d write more but its time to pour a Guinness and calm down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  Bear in mind, enforced testimony time and Jesus pep-bands last only an hour or so.  Can you imagine an eternity of that?  I&#8217;d write more but its time to pour a Guinness and calm down.</p>
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		<title>By: Watchman</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535175</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 16:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two quotes come to mind in response to this:

&quot;If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world.&quot; (C.S. Lewis)

&quot;My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.&quot; (John 17:15) 

Jesus wants us in the world, but not any part of the world that is hostile towards God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two quotes come to mind in response to this:</p>
<p>&#8220;If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world.&#8221; (C.S. Lewis)</p>
<p>&#8220;My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.&#8221; (John 17:15) </p>
<p>Jesus wants us in the world, but not any part of the world that is hostile towards God.</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535173</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead, we get compulsory Bible Studies and lightweight Praise Choruses and never-ending Testimony Night (&lt;i&gt;Left Behind: Volume 16&lt;/i&gt;)..

Give me a big Sangria and 72 virgins any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead, we get compulsory Bible Studies and lightweight Praise Choruses and never-ending Testimony Night (<i>Left Behind: Volume 16</i>)..</p>
<p>Give me a big Sangria and 72 virgins any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 16:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking more about Unicorns (four- or two-legged), Dragons, and the myriad of imaginary critters you see on FurAffinity and DeviantArt -- Kuvrahk, Skiltaire, Cobras in White Dresses, etc.

As for Balrogs?  Several ways to go on that one.

&quot;Do you remember how the race of Orcs first came into existence?&quot;  How they began as Elves corrupted and twisted by the Dark Power?  Well, Balrogs came into existence in a similar manner.  You start with an Elf, you get an Orc; you start with a Maia-spirit, you get a Balrog.

And when Resurrected into Reality in a cosmos without sin, would you get a Balrog who remained unfallen?  A powerful spirit of Fire?  Not evil, but still dangerous like a force of nature?  

Like a Resurrected and perfected Tyrannosaur?  Retaining the power and might and essence of Tyrannosaur instead of emasculated and &quot;safe&quot; like Barney or Dinotopia?  A velociraptor who retains her kick-claws but keeps them sheathed for you?  A Cobra who retains her fangs and venom but holds them safe around you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking more about Unicorns (four- or two-legged), Dragons, and the myriad of imaginary critters you see on FurAffinity and DeviantArt &#8212; Kuvrahk, Skiltaire, Cobras in White Dresses, etc.</p>
<p>As for Balrogs?  Several ways to go on that one.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you remember how the race of Orcs first came into existence?&#8221;  How they began as Elves corrupted and twisted by the Dark Power?  Well, Balrogs came into existence in a similar manner.  You start with an Elf, you get an Orc; you start with a Maia-spirit, you get a Balrog.</p>
<p>And when Resurrected into Reality in a cosmos without sin, would you get a Balrog who remained unfallen?  A powerful spirit of Fire?  Not evil, but still dangerous like a force of nature?  </p>
<p>Like a Resurrected and perfected Tyrannosaur?  Retaining the power and might and essence of Tyrannosaur instead of emasculated and &#8220;safe&#8221; like Barney or Dinotopia?  A velociraptor who retains her kick-claws but keeps them sheathed for you?  A Cobra who retains her fangs and venom but holds them safe around you?</p>
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		<title>By: iMonk Classic: Too Much Heaven? (part 2) &#124; internetmonk.com</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535171</link>
		<dc:creator>iMonk Classic: Too Much Heaven? (part 2) &#124; internetmonk.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 16:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] classic Michael Spencer piece &#8220;Too Much Heaven?&#8221; that we ran last Saturday has raised some good questions and comments. That piece was originally [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] classic Michael Spencer piece &#8220;Too Much Heaven?&#8221; that we ran last Saturday has raised some good questions and comments. That piece was originally [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-classic-too-much-heaven/comment-page-1#comment-535170</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 15:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because Never-ending Church Service in Fluffy Cloud Heaven is one of those concepts of Heaven that make Hell look like a good deal.

Whatever happened to Resurrection of the Body?  The New Heavens and New Earth?  Heaven come down to us instead of us going to Heaven?

(I suspect Victorian Romantic Sentimentality had a lot to do with Fluffy Cloud Heaven replacing Resurrection.  And we&#039;ve had to labor under that misconception ever since.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because Never-ending Church Service in Fluffy Cloud Heaven is one of those concepts of Heaven that make Hell look like a good deal.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to Resurrection of the Body?  The New Heavens and New Earth?  Heaven come down to us instead of us going to Heaven?</p>
<p>(I suspect Victorian Romantic Sentimentality had a lot to do with Fluffy Cloud Heaven replacing Resurrection.  And we&#8217;ve had to labor under that misconception ever since.)</p>
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