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	<title>Comments on: iMonk 101: Where Have You Gone, Thomas Merton?</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Abbot Mike Olsen</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-101-where-have-you-gone-thomas-merton/comment-page-1#comment-493240</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbot Mike Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opps that is Charismatic, must of been lost in the spirit when I was typing(smile)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps that is Charismatic, must of been lost in the spirit when I was typing(smile)</p>
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		<title>By: Abbot Mike Olsen</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-101-where-have-you-gone-thomas-merton/comment-page-1#comment-493239</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbot Mike Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the early Merton too, the latter one embraced too much eastern religion for my liking.
I was raised Catholic but find the church has changed and embraced things that they should not have. I am a married charisamtic anglican priest and monk. The only way I would return to Rome is if I could have an Abbey and church like those in Stubenville Ohio, I envision a Roman Catholic church smells and bells with freedom to worship in the Spirit! Blessings, Father Mike Olsen O.S.C Pine Abbey/ Iona Community Church Louisville Kentucky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the early Merton too, the latter one embraced too much eastern religion for my liking.<br />
I was raised Catholic but find the church has changed and embraced things that they should not have. I am a married charisamtic anglican priest and monk. The only way I would return to Rome is if I could have an Abbey and church like those in Stubenville Ohio, I envision a Roman Catholic church smells and bells with freedom to worship in the Spirit! Blessings, Father Mike Olsen O.S.C Pine Abbey/ Iona Community Church Louisville Kentucky</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew N. Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew N. Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

I think you&#039;d find quite a home in Orthodoxy.  As opposed to the Western versions of &quot;christianity&quot; the Orthodox are very respectful of other positions, and don&#039;t push their views on others.

/end joke.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;d find quite a home in Orthodoxy.  As opposed to the Western versions of &#8220;christianity&#8221; the Orthodox are very respectful of other positions, and don&#8217;t push their views on others.</p>
<p>/end joke.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Radagast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radagast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... did a retreat in a Benedictine Monastery - they do the long version of the Liturgy of the Hours - great stuff but I actually needed someone to keep pointing to which section we were on - mostly psalms but boy did they jump around - and they sang them all accapella too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; did a retreat in a Benedictine Monastery &#8211; they do the long version of the Liturgy of the Hours &#8211; great stuff but I actually needed someone to keep pointing to which section we were on &#8211; mostly psalms but boy did they jump around &#8211; and they sang them all accapella too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew N. Petersen</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-101-where-have-you-gone-thomas-merton/comment-page-1#comment-329579</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew N. Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Memphis,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.osb.org/intl/angl/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; a link to an Anglican Benedictine website, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.staugustineshouse.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; one to a Lutheran Monastery in Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Memphis,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.osb.org/intl/angl/index.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s</a> a link to an Anglican Benedictine website, and <a href="http://www.staugustineshouse.org/" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s</a> one to a Lutheran Monastery in Michigan.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrddin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrddin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, Radagast. I agree. It&#039;s one of my greatest griefs as an Evangelical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Radagast. I agree. It&#8217;s one of my greatest griefs as an Evangelical.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sacamento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sacamento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But there is no doubt that my experience of the internet is not populated with Merton/Nouwen Catholics. The evangelical internet is the favorite battle zone for a breed of Catholic apologist who relishes the opportunity to defend Roman Catholicism, attack Protestantism’s weak points and evangelize Protestants openly and aggressively.&lt;/i&gt;

I think I&#039;ve said it before here: There is just something about the internet in general and blogs in particular that brings out the worst in people.  Or maybe it just brings out the worst people.  I think that&#039;s what alot of it is.  Not to minimize your &quot;lament&quot; at all.  That&#039;s just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But there is no doubt that my experience of the internet is not populated with Merton/Nouwen Catholics. The evangelical internet is the favorite battle zone for a breed of Catholic apologist who relishes the opportunity to defend Roman Catholicism, attack Protestantism’s weak points and evangelize Protestants openly and aggressively.</i></p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve said it before here: There is just something about the internet in general and blogs in particular that brings out the worst in people.  Or maybe it just brings out the worst people.  I think that&#8217;s what alot of it is.  Not to minimize your &#8220;lament&#8221; at all.  That&#8217;s just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Radaghast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radaghast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other comment - a bit off topic.

&quot;I still resent the apologists when my conversion is the goal.&quot;

I get this a lot only in the other direction.  Sometimes I just like to talk about scripture.  And I have several aquaintances including Catholic layfolk, two Lutheran ministers, an Anglican priest and A United Church of Christ pastor I do this with on a semi-frequent basis. (WARNING - Generalization comment to follow).  But when I engage my fellow Baptist, non denom, or pentacostal brother/sister - things always have to turn to what is wrong with Catholic theology -and anger or at least agitation on their part follows.  Mind you this is not an apoligetic discussion or even a discussion on parts of scriture that we may differ on.  This is - &quot;oh your Catholic - Why do you worship idols...&quot; or some other shlock. Makes me sad - just like to discuss scripture with some other spiritual soul steeped in scripture as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other comment &#8211; a bit off topic.</p>
<p>&#8220;I still resent the apologists when my conversion is the goal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I get this a lot only in the other direction.  Sometimes I just like to talk about scripture.  And I have several aquaintances including Catholic layfolk, two Lutheran ministers, an Anglican priest and A United Church of Christ pastor I do this with on a semi-frequent basis. (WARNING &#8211; Generalization comment to follow).  But when I engage my fellow Baptist, non denom, or pentacostal brother/sister &#8211; things always have to turn to what is wrong with Catholic theology -and anger or at least agitation on their part follows.  Mind you this is not an apoligetic discussion or even a discussion on parts of scriture that we may differ on.  This is &#8211; &#8220;oh your Catholic &#8211; Why do you worship idols&#8230;&#8221; or some other shlock. Makes me sad &#8211; just like to discuss scripture with some other spiritual soul steeped in scripture as well.</p>
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		<title>By: + Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>+ Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merton has been my teacher - the most significant spiritual influence of my life thus far. I&#039;ve said this many times. It&#039;s true and maybe a little sad - because that means I&#039;ve been spiritually directed by a dead man more than by any living person. I couldn&#039;t think of a better one though. I&#039;ve always said I feel like by reading him, I&#039;m also digging into the whole ocean of who and what he read. He is/was a treasure.

I have not become disillusioned about him. Well, maybe if I ever had &lt;i&gt;illusions&lt;/i&gt; about him, I don&#039;t have them now, if that&#039;s what you mean. He was quite a fallible human being - you know, like all of us. He was very romantic about his faith in the early years, and as he grew, he evolved, and in a good way I think. We should all grow in such a way.

And there sort of are Protestant monks, and nuns, if you want to call Anglicans, Protestants. They may not like the term themselves, some of them, but for the sake of the question, yes, there are Anglican monasteries and convents. There is also a more recent crop of &quot;new monastics&quot; who are often connected with the &lt;i&gt;emerging church&lt;/i&gt; phenomenon. That label is fading, but this new way of being a monastically oriented Christian &quot;in the world&quot; is growing I think. It grows in urban areas. It grows as a vision for a new kind of monastic community in rural areas. It even grows in the suburbs. Now, all these people aren&#039;t Protestant, some are Catholic as well. I&#039;d be one of them. Good stuff, I say - keep growing. &lt;i&gt;Thomas Merton, pray for us.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merton has been my teacher &#8211; the most significant spiritual influence of my life thus far. I&#8217;ve said this many times. It&#8217;s true and maybe a little sad &#8211; because that means I&#8217;ve been spiritually directed by a dead man more than by any living person. I couldn&#8217;t think of a better one though. I&#8217;ve always said I feel like by reading him, I&#8217;m also digging into the whole ocean of who and what he read. He is/was a treasure.</p>
<p>I have not become disillusioned about him. Well, maybe if I ever had <i>illusions</i> about him, I don&#8217;t have them now, if that&#8217;s what you mean. He was quite a fallible human being &#8211; you know, like all of us. He was very romantic about his faith in the early years, and as he grew, he evolved, and in a good way I think. We should all grow in such a way.</p>
<p>And there sort of are Protestant monks, and nuns, if you want to call Anglicans, Protestants. They may not like the term themselves, some of them, but for the sake of the question, yes, there are Anglican monasteries and convents. There is also a more recent crop of &#8220;new monastics&#8221; who are often connected with the <i>emerging church</i> phenomenon. That label is fading, but this new way of being a monastically oriented Christian &#8220;in the world&#8221; is growing I think. It grows in urban areas. It grows as a vision for a new kind of monastic community in rural areas. It even grows in the suburbs. Now, all these people aren&#8217;t Protestant, some are Catholic as well. I&#8217;d be one of them. Good stuff, I say &#8211; keep growing. <i>Thomas Merton, pray for us.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Mack Ramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mack Ramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was one Protestant monk, his name was Martin Luther.</description>
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