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	<title>Comments on: iMonk 101: Is there Mental Illness in the Bible?</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-101-is-there-mental-illness-in-the-bible/comment-page-1#comment-521063</link>
		<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so very thankful for this post. I just came across it and wanted to add if I could.  I have suffered immensely from various mental illnesses over the years.  One passage that helped me confirm for myself that I was not a &quot;cursed demon child&quot; was the beloved verse Matthew: 4:24.  This passage makes a delineation between some mental and spiritual states.  They brought to Him all sick people who were afflicted w/ various diseases and torments, and those who were demon possessed, epileptics,and paralytics.  I believe I am saved and know Jesus as my saviour and Lord so I gain much solace in this passage hoping that I am among those that fall in the epileptic continuum or such.  A clear demarcation that acknowledges the existence of brain malfunction apart from demonic activity.  I feel like sometimes as I suffer God whispers in my ear, you, my child have a brain dysfunction and you are still mine and I still love you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so very thankful for this post. I just came across it and wanted to add if I could.  I have suffered immensely from various mental illnesses over the years.  One passage that helped me confirm for myself that I was not a &#8220;cursed demon child&#8221; was the beloved verse Matthew: 4:24.  This passage makes a delineation between some mental and spiritual states.  They brought to Him all sick people who were afflicted w/ various diseases and torments, and those who were demon possessed, epileptics,and paralytics.  I believe I am saved and know Jesus as my saviour and Lord so I gain much solace in this passage hoping that I am among those that fall in the epileptic continuum or such.  A clear demarcation that acknowledges the existence of brain malfunction apart from demonic activity.  I feel like sometimes as I suffer God whispers in my ear, you, my child have a brain dysfunction and you are still mine and I still love you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/imonk-101-is-there-mental-illness-in-the-bible/comment-page-1#comment-520626</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a fair reading of what the poster actually said. And they didn&#039;t mention anything about the age of the earth. There&#039;s definitely some speculation going on here about viewing &quot;original sin&quot; as a form of &quot;mental illness&quot;, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to say the person is laying blame on schizophrenics because they&#039;re just a bunch of sinners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a fair reading of what the poster actually said. And they didn&#8217;t mention anything about the age of the earth. There&#8217;s definitely some speculation going on here about viewing &#8220;original sin&#8221; as a form of &#8220;mental illness&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to say the person is laying blame on schizophrenics because they&#8217;re just a bunch of sinners.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed how otherwise intelligent people can believe in a childhood myth that the earth is a mere 6000 years old when there is such an abundance of evidence to the contrary. 

I doubt you hear voices telling you to kill yourself, or are so despondent you can&#039;t even get out of bed in the morning and cry for no good reason. I doubt you are so terrified over nothing that you sweat profusely and feel your heart pounding like it&#039;s going to pop out of your chest. 

This is nothing but a lot of fancy talk for &#039;blame the mentally ill person because they&#039;ve sinned.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed how otherwise intelligent people can believe in a childhood myth that the earth is a mere 6000 years old when there is such an abundance of evidence to the contrary. </p>
<p>I doubt you hear voices telling you to kill yourself, or are so despondent you can&#8217;t even get out of bed in the morning and cry for no good reason. I doubt you are so terrified over nothing that you sweat profusely and feel your heart pounding like it&#8217;s going to pop out of your chest. </p>
<p>This is nothing but a lot of fancy talk for &#8216;blame the mentally ill person because they&#8217;ve sinned.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Jennet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Ronh.  May you continue to draw closer to God!  I wish you strength in your journey.  Keep the faith, for I know it is a difficult journey some days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Ronh.  May you continue to draw closer to God!  I wish you strength in your journey.  Keep the faith, for I know it is a difficult journey some days!</p>
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		<title>By: JoeA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, basically your response is what I tell my son when I don&#039;t know an answer to one of his questions: &#039;because I said so&#039;. 

It&#039;s impossible for me to accept such articles of faith any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, basically your response is what I tell my son when I don&#8217;t know an answer to one of his questions: &#8216;because I said so&#8217;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible for me to accept such articles of faith any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is mental illness in my immediate family.

My dad had bipolar disorder. In my early years he was a pastor for a while, until he couldn&#039;t do it any longer. 

My dad suffered a great deal, but the thing is, he had a heart for the downtrodden. I can&#039;t help but believe his condition gave him love and patience for alcoholics, drug addicts and ex-cons. I have a letter from one of these that he wrote to my dad thanking him for his love and support. It kills me every time I read it. This man had found out that my dad was in the black hole again.

When I was in elementary school there was a man who would come to our home for Thanksgiving. My dad would pick him up at the boarding house where he lived about an hour away. I don&#039;t know this man&#039;s history, but he would play ragtime on our piano. 

Of course, I&#039;m not saying that all mental illness has any productive use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is mental illness in my immediate family.</p>
<p>My dad had bipolar disorder. In my early years he was a pastor for a while, until he couldn&#8217;t do it any longer. </p>
<p>My dad suffered a great deal, but the thing is, he had a heart for the downtrodden. I can&#8217;t help but believe his condition gave him love and patience for alcoholics, drug addicts and ex-cons. I have a letter from one of these that he wrote to my dad thanking him for his love and support. It kills me every time I read it. This man had found out that my dad was in the black hole again.</p>
<p>When I was in elementary school there was a man who would come to our home for Thanksgiving. My dad would pick him up at the boarding house where he lived about an hour away. I don&#8217;t know this man&#8217;s history, but he would play ragtime on our piano. </p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m not saying that all mental illness has any productive use.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, but I tend to suppose that culture itself is subject to self-destructive dialectical diseases that explain things like Koro. For instance: a panicked segment of one culture blames an outgroup for their perceived shrinking penises, and a panicked segment of another culture blames an outgroup for their perceived shrinking economy - and both segments become violent against the Other they&#039;ve named, and their aggravation seems impervious to both sense and logic. The formal similarities are obvious; I wonder if there&#039;s really any difference?

Contrast that with an disease like pica - where the sufferer feels the insatiable compulsion to do something unnatural (eating inedible things, ripping out their hair or whatever) but seem and feel  not-crazy otherwise. It&#039;s genetic, disproportionately affects a certain population, neurological, psychological, causes real suffering, and flies almost totally under the sympathy radar of pretty much everybody who doesn&#039;t have to live with it, whether or not the cultural ecology is amenable to it or not. We have a much better sense of its presentation and etiology nowadays, but once-upon-a-time and generally, it was just a weird, quietly life-ruining compulsion practiced by weird people who couldn&#039;t very well explain it or help themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, but I tend to suppose that culture itself is subject to self-destructive dialectical diseases that explain things like Koro. For instance: a panicked segment of one culture blames an outgroup for their perceived shrinking penises, and a panicked segment of another culture blames an outgroup for their perceived shrinking economy &#8211; and both segments become violent against the Other they&#8217;ve named, and their aggravation seems impervious to both sense and logic. The formal similarities are obvious; I wonder if there&#8217;s really any difference?</p>
<p>Contrast that with an disease like pica &#8211; where the sufferer feels the insatiable compulsion to do something unnatural (eating inedible things, ripping out their hair or whatever) but seem and feel  not-crazy otherwise. It&#8217;s genetic, disproportionately affects a certain population, neurological, psychological, causes real suffering, and flies almost totally under the sympathy radar of pretty much everybody who doesn&#8217;t have to live with it, whether or not the cultural ecology is amenable to it or not. We have a much better sense of its presentation and etiology nowadays, but once-upon-a-time and generally, it was just a weird, quietly life-ruining compulsion practiced by weird people who couldn&#8217;t very well explain it or help themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: ronh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for saying that Jennet. I am like your husband, except my brokenness is in another place of my psyche. I too have found after years of struggle that God has left me in this place to draw me deeper into His sufficiency and grace. It is there that He &quot;holds me together&quot;. God bless you and your husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for saying that Jennet. I am like your husband, except my brokenness is in another place of my psyche. I too have found after years of struggle that God has left me in this place to draw me deeper into His sufficiency and grace. It is there that He &#8220;holds me together&#8221;. God bless you and your husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Warwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Michael. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Michael. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Ernesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there are people who do not believe in demon possession. And, there are people who do not believe in mental illness. However, I would wager that most Christians believe in both mental illness and demon possession. I certainly believe that both are present though it may be difficult to distinguish between them at times. That is why those in the Church must be cautious before giving facile interpretations of what they are seeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are people who do not believe in demon possession. And, there are people who do not believe in mental illness. However, I would wager that most Christians believe in both mental illness and demon possession. I certainly believe that both are present though it may be difficult to distinguish between them at times. That is why those in the Church must be cautious before giving facile interpretations of what they are seeing.</p>
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