Comments on: IM Classic: Thinking About the Canon: A Post-Evangelical’s View

By: Fearless Raccoon

Fearless Raccoon — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:52:14 +0000

Spoken like a “true believer.”

How’s that Kool-Aid taste, son?

By: JoanieD

JoanieD — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:47:52 +0000

As a fellow Catholic, I agree with Dennis in that Fearsome Tycoon is “a little off base here.” Excellent points, Dennis.

By: Sam Urfer

Sam Urfer — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:33:28 +0000

Why is it so odd to consider that Paul would reference a book that was considered canonical in his day?

By: Sam Urfer

Sam Urfer — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:16:10 +0000

“Why would you wish that an argument for damnable heresy could hold water…Protestant views, being lies and being rejections of the Word of God in Tradition, have their origin in sin, rebellion, and the work of the devil.”

While what you say is true, though a bit out of character for a Lutheran to admit, I think this falls under the category of proof that Original Sin exists.

I know that after I saw the truth of the Catholic Church, I spent months trying to disprove it to myself. As such, coming into the Catholic Church was a failure on my part to rationalize what I wanted to be true, namely Protestantism.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:33:42 +0000

Fearsome Tycoon,

As a Catholic, I think you’re a little off base here.

Whether Luther and Calvin were doing the Devil’s work is not pertinent to this discussion.

Your logic doesn’t hold though…”Protestant views, being lies and being rejections of the Word of God in Tradition, have their origin in sin, rebellion, and the work of the devil.”

Ummm…yeah, the entire Christian Faith has its origin in sin, rebellion, and work of the devil. If you don’t believe me, please reread Genesis 3.

God creates tremendous good out of evil. I believe the Reformation was tragic and the work of the devil in splitting the Church. That doesn’t make Protestants evil or non-Christian. I’ve known many a Protestant who take their faith more seriously than most Catholics I know. That also doesn’t make those Catholics evil or non-Christian.

By: Fearsome Tycoon

Fearsome Tycoon — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:01:15 +0000

The Protestant view of Scripture wasn’t invented yesterday, nor were the arguments for it. They were born by rebels, inspired by wicked desires and arrogant rebellion. Luther and Calvin were doing the devil’s work. Properly speaking, Protestantism is a tool of Satan to mislead souls from the path of salvation, away from the Sacraments of the Church and from rightly working out their salvation and meriting grace, and into worthless dependence on faith alone. No one should desire that the arguments for damnable heresy be sound. That is equivalent to desire that the work of the devil had a firm basis.

By: Margaret Catherine

Margaret Catherine — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:19:45 +0000

It’s hard to defy an authority you’ve never accepted nor been under. As a fellow Catholic…maybe you just want to make your position clear, but please, don’t “go there”.

By: Fearsome Tycoon

Fearsome Tycoon — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:17:32 +0000

Disagreed. If by â€œapocryphaâ€ you include the 7 deuterocanonical books accepted by the Catholic Church (and all Orthodox Churches) as God-breathed.
Which version of Judith was God-breathed? Is the story of Bel & the Dragon God-breathed? What about the story of the adulterous woman in John? What about I John 5:7?
Thatâ€™s another problem with the Protestant OT canon: It disagrees with the Orthodox Churches as well.
So does the Catholic canon. If the standard is Orthodoxy, Catholicism is wrong.

By: Fearsome Tycoon

Fearsome Tycoon — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:17:32 +0000

By: Fearsome Tycoon

Fearsome Tycoon — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:36:32 +0000

There is no “the canon” that you can describe as “fallible” or “infallible.” There are different canons that different churches have used at different times and in different ways.