Comments on: I wish I’d said that http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/i-wish-id-said-that ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:18:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Shannon http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/i-wish-id-said-that#comment-294 Shannon Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/im.php/?p=66#comment-294 Um...can you come and say that on my message forum???:) Seriously, I moderate an online forum for religious debate and the idea of a literal interpretation of the Bible being the only 'correct' way to read it comes up on a regular basis, one way or another. I never subscribed to the idea that the Bible must be taken completely literally or it is junk the way some people do...I feel that when people take every word literally without looking at the history or context in which it was written, they miss a lot of the meaning and beauty. The Bible and Christianity is a very beautiful thing...there is allegory and symbolism as well as literal, factual accounts...and it is really sad to see people reduce it to a weapon the way I see on my forum sometimes... Um…can you come and say that on my message forum???:)

Seriously, I moderate an online forum for religious debate and the idea of a literal interpretation of the Bible being the only ‘correct’ way to read it comes up on a regular basis, one way or another. I never subscribed to the idea that the Bible must be taken completely literally or it is junk the way some people do…I feel that when people take every word literally without looking at the history or context in which it was written, they miss a lot of the meaning and beauty. The Bible and Christianity is a very beautiful thing…there is allegory and symbolism as well as literal, factual accounts…and it is really sad to see people reduce it to a weapon the way I see on my forum sometimes…

]]> By: Just Another Christian http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/i-wish-id-said-that#comment-295 Just Another Christian Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/im.php/?p=66#comment-295 SO...... my friend: upon WHAT authority do you issue your critique of the CGM or any other late/great idea? Your present feeling about it? Your judgement on the character of the people who promote this nonsense? YOU SEE, my friend, if you do not submit to a Bible understood from the literal/grammatical principle - then there is no authority except yourself, or maybe the New Pope who has the power to begin a New Inquisition... but then, from where did that Pope get his authority? Was it not from "how he felt about what the Bible says"? One of the unfortunate fallouts from the Protestant Secession was that instead of only one Pope - we now have millions of Popes - each one believing that he could tidy up the loose language of the Bible for us and give us the true interpretation - which was not an interpretation at all, but was actually a correction....of the Bible.... Please point out to me one of those verses that cannot be understood correctly if we simply observe all the normal laws for language... definition, allegories, figures of speech, grammar and context? Which verse or vserses will you say are misleadoing if taken according to all the laws of language that we demand be observed in the courthouse or in our mortgage? Would you sign a contract that said ONE THOUSAND dollars if what ONE THOUSAND dollars meant was up for "interpretation"? Do you have 2 sets of laws for language? One for the Bible and another for everything that really matters in life? Do you have 2 sets of definitions for words - one for the Bible and another that you require when we're talking money or property or family relations? I disagree with you INFINITELY when you denounce the literal/grammatical principle of Bible interpretation - for when you do so, you explicitly deny 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (2 Tim 3:16 KJV) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (2 Tim 3:17 KJV) That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. BUT THEN - that's just the Bible talking, and this too, must be subjected to (not definition, but) "interpretation", right? Just Another Christian "US" 1 John 4:6 Main site front page <a href="http://www.apostasynow.com">http://www.apostasynow.com</a> The Great Dream Book: <a href="http://www.apostasynow.com/tgd/index.html">http://www.apostasynow.com/tgd/index.html</a> new Dutch language site <a href="http://www.1johannes4-6.com">http://www.1johannes4-6.com</a> Highly recommended reading from 1912: War On The Saints, by Mrs. Jessie Penn-Lewis and Evan Roberts; the definitive address to the Pensacola and Toronto "revivals" <a href="http://www.apostasynow.com/wots/index.html">http://www.apostasynow.com/wots/index.html</a> <a href="http://www.jacglobal.net">http://www.jacglobal.net</a> Just Another Christian Global Business Network a FREE service to our true friends in faith BRAND NEW AND SUPER DUPER! Rapture Answers web-site <a href="http://www.rapture-answers.com">http://www.rapture-answers.com</a> Kenyan ministries that we assist and support <a href="http://www.jacglobal.net/kenyans/index.html">http://www.jacglobal.net/kenyans/index.html</a> SO…… my friend: upon WHAT authority do you issue your critique of the CGM or any other late/great idea? Your present feeling about it? Your judgement on the character of the people who promote this nonsense? YOU SEE, my friend, if you do not submit to a Bible understood from the literal/grammatical principle - then there is no authority except yourself, or maybe the New Pope who has the power to begin a New Inquisition… but then, from where did that Pope get his authority? Was it not from “how he felt about what the Bible says”? One of the unfortunate fallouts from the Protestant Secession was that instead of only one Pope - we now have millions of Popes - each one believing that he could tidy up the loose language of the Bible for us and give us the true interpretation - which was not an interpretation at all, but was actually a correction….of the Bible…. Please point out to me one of those verses that cannot be understood correctly if we simply observe all the normal laws for language… definition, allegories, figures of speech, grammar and context? Which verse or vserses will you say are misleadoing if taken according to all the laws of language that we demand be observed in the courthouse or in our mortgage? Would you sign a contract that said ONE THOUSAND dollars if what ONE THOUSAND dollars meant was up for “interpretation”? Do you have 2 sets of laws for language? One for the Bible and another for everything that really matters in life? Do you have 2 sets of definitions for words - one for the Bible and another that you require when we’re talking money or property or family relations?

I disagree with you INFINITELY when you denounce the literal/grammatical principle of Bible interpretation - for when you do so, you explicitly deny 2 Timothy 3:16-17

(2 Tim 3:16 KJV) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

(2 Tim 3:17 KJV) That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

BUT THEN - that’s just the Bible talking, and this too, must be subjected to (not definition, but) “interpretation”, right?

Just Another Christian
“US” 1 John 4:6
Main site front page
http://www.apostasynow.com

The Great Dream Book:
http://www.apostasynow.com/tgd/index.html

new Dutch language site
http://www.1johannes4-6.com

Highly recommended reading from 1912: War On The Saints,
by Mrs. Jessie Penn-Lewis and Evan Roberts; the definitive
address to the Pensacola and Toronto “revivals”
http://www.apostasynow.com/wots/index.html

http://www.jacglobal.net
Just Another Christian Global Business Network
a FREE service to our true friends in faith

BRAND NEW AND SUPER DUPER!
Rapture Answers web-site
http://www.rapture-answers.com

Kenyan ministries that we assist and support
http://www.jacglobal.net/kenyans/index.html

]]> By: cw http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/i-wish-id-said-that#comment-296 cw Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/im.php/?p=66#comment-296 Dear Just Another Christian, Please explain how 2 Tim. 3:16-17 supports your view of the Bible. Logically deduce it from the verses themselves. Thanks. Dear Just Another Christian,

Please explain how 2 Tim. 3:16-17 supports your view of the Bible. Logically deduce it from the verses themselves.

Thanks.

]]> By: WR Pate http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/i-wish-id-said-that#comment-297 WR Pate Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/im.php/?p=66#comment-297 I love reading your post and heartly agree with most I have some God given insite on some well overlooked scriptures. I have a website "Parsons Parlor" I feel God has raised you folk up for such a time as this please respond youe in the lord Pastor WR Pate I love reading your post
and heartly agree with most
I have some God given insite on some well overlooked
scriptures.
I have a website “Parsons Parlor”
I feel God has raised you folk up for such a time as this
please respond
youe in the lord Pastor WR Pate

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