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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/hey-americawere-all-here/comment-page-1#comment-298452</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap!

I just found the blog post to end the discussion.  This one!  :)</description>
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<p>I just found the blog post to end the discussion.  This one!  <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Learning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bart M,

 If she kills moose I think thats kind of cool. I prefer women who are on the outgoing side.</description>
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<p> If she kills moose I think thats kind of cool. I prefer women who are on the outgoing side.</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/hey-americawere-all-here/comment-page-1#comment-298197</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do we actually have religion reporters in America who are stunned to hear that Roman Catholics believe in the teachings of the church, aren’t seeking to overthrow the pope, don’t plan to ordain &lt;b&gt;women priests&lt;/b&gt;...&lt;/i&gt;

Okay, the term &quot;woman priest&quot; is one of those fingernails-on-the-chalkboard screeches with me.

English already HAS have a feminine form of the word &quot;priest&quot;:  PRIESTESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do we actually have religion reporters in America who are stunned to hear that Roman Catholics believe in the teachings of the church, aren’t seeking to overthrow the pope, don’t plan to ordain <b>women priests</b>&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Okay, the term &#8220;woman priest&#8221; is one of those fingernails-on-the-chalkboard screeches with me.</p>
<p>English already HAS have a feminine form of the word &#8220;priest&#8221;:  PRIESTESS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Steen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stellar post, and a nice reminder in this age of people shoving their personal causes in your face via the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stellar post, and a nice reminder in this age of people shoving their personal causes in your face via the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Rowe</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/hey-americawere-all-here/comment-page-1#comment-296180</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;yelling at the television does not change things&quot;??? And all this time I thought I was participating in the American democratic experiment.

&quot;Is it the place of the pastor to deal with these matters, and where is it on the priority list?&quot;-Mike

No, the role of the Pastor is to shepherd the flock the Lord has placed him over and teach Biblical truth. The Pastor should encourage us to participate in our community and pray for our leaders as scripture commands us to but not how to participate. As far as priority: preach/teach the Gospel, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the imprisoned, heal/comfort the sick..., it is way down the line. Our Lord did not tell the Centurion or the tax collector what his politics should be. By the by, I am about as far right wing as you can get if you are into name calling and grouping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;yelling at the television does not change things&#8221;??? And all this time I thought I was participating in the American democratic experiment.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it the place of the pastor to deal with these matters, and where is it on the priority list?&#8221;-Mike</p>
<p>No, the role of the Pastor is to shepherd the flock the Lord has placed him over and teach Biblical truth. The Pastor should encourage us to participate in our community and pray for our leaders as scripture commands us to but not how to participate. As far as priority: preach/teach the Gospel, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the imprisoned, heal/comfort the sick&#8230;, it is way down the line. Our Lord did not tell the Centurion or the tax collector what his politics should be. By the by, I am about as far right wing as you can get if you are into name calling and grouping.</p>
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		<title>By: nedbrek</title>
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		<dc:creator>nedbrek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yelling at the television won’t change anything.&quot;

Yea, but it does make me feel better... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yelling at the television won’t change anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yea, but it does make me feel better&#8230; <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the reminder that, as much as some of us try to see politics and the world as either red or blue, reality exists in infinate shades of purple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the reminder that, as much as some of us try to see politics and the world as either red or blue, reality exists in infinate shades of purple.</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At Columbia U, Iranian President Ahmadinejad could say there are no gays in Iran, and smile as if saying makes it so.&lt;/i&gt; -- IMonk

It&#039;s not just &quot;saying makes it so.&quot;  Iran is gay-free for the same reason (and similar methods) the Third Reich was Jew-free.

&lt;i&gt;Grace and Peace from the One not defined by red or blue!&lt;/i&gt; -- Jordan

You DO know Obama&#039;s starting to get nicknamed &quot;The One&quot;, don&#039;t you?  (I believe it started out as a &lt;i&gt;Matrix&lt;/i&gt; reference directed at his highly-vocal fanboys.)

&lt;i&gt;We’re amazed at the caricature of Christianity others see us as….and yet when religion intersects with media…reporters don’t ask careful thinkers like J.P. Moreland or Dan Wallace or Greg Koukl, etc. They just ask Joel Osteen or Falwell, etc., what we think.&lt;/i&gt; -- Chad Winters

Osteen or Falwell?
Not Fred Phelps?

&lt;i&gt;My friends and relatives are stunned that anyone anywhere is actually considering voting for Democrats and believe the election will be a Republican landslide.&lt;/i&gt; -- Rob Loftland

Encountering something similar here in SoCal, behind the Orange Curtain.  Reminds me of the Mackinista who witnessed to me (in the mid-Nineties) how Apple WOULD drive Microsoft into bankruptcy by the year 2000.  When pointed out this wasn&#039;t realistic, his face turned purple, his eyes bugged out, and the screams of &quot;DIE, HERETIC!&quot; began.

It&#039;s not just the USSR and its descendants who made Politics into a religion.  This election is actually following a Pre-Mil End-of-the-World script (at least in mythic overtones):

Since 2000, through Bush Derangement Syndroms and other Conspiracy Theories, Bush has been cast as The Antichrist, and his time in office as the Great Tribulation, a time of unrelenting darkness.

After years of dystopia after dystopia, you either go nihilistic or suicidal.  Or look to a Man on the White Horse to Save You from the unrelenting darkness -- Messiah Politics.

Enter one Barack Obama, charismatic Chicago Machine pol.  Just as Bush has been cast as The Antichrist, so Obama has stepped into the role of the Coming Christ figure who will cast Bush the Beast and all his works into the Lake of Fire and usher in The Kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>At Columbia U, Iranian President Ahmadinejad could say there are no gays in Iran, and smile as if saying makes it so.</i> &#8212; IMonk</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just &#8220;saying makes it so.&#8221;  Iran is gay-free for the same reason (and similar methods) the Third Reich was Jew-free.</p>
<p><i>Grace and Peace from the One not defined by red or blue!</i> &#8212; Jordan</p>
<p>You DO know Obama&#8217;s starting to get nicknamed &#8220;The One&#8221;, don&#8217;t you?  (I believe it started out as a <i>Matrix</i> reference directed at his highly-vocal fanboys.)</p>
<p><i>We’re amazed at the caricature of Christianity others see us as….and yet when religion intersects with media…reporters don’t ask careful thinkers like J.P. Moreland or Dan Wallace or Greg Koukl, etc. They just ask Joel Osteen or Falwell, etc., what we think.</i> &#8212; Chad Winters</p>
<p>Osteen or Falwell?<br />
Not Fred Phelps?</p>
<p><i>My friends and relatives are stunned that anyone anywhere is actually considering voting for Democrats and believe the election will be a Republican landslide.</i> &#8212; Rob Loftland</p>
<p>Encountering something similar here in SoCal, behind the Orange Curtain.  Reminds me of the Mackinista who witnessed to me (in the mid-Nineties) how Apple WOULD drive Microsoft into bankruptcy by the year 2000.  When pointed out this wasn&#8217;t realistic, his face turned purple, his eyes bugged out, and the screams of &#8220;DIE, HERETIC!&#8221; began.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just the USSR and its descendants who made Politics into a religion.  This election is actually following a Pre-Mil End-of-the-World script (at least in mythic overtones):</p>
<p>Since 2000, through Bush Derangement Syndroms and other Conspiracy Theories, Bush has been cast as The Antichrist, and his time in office as the Great Tribulation, a time of unrelenting darkness.</p>
<p>After years of dystopia after dystopia, you either go nihilistic or suicidal.  Or look to a Man on the White Horse to Save You from the unrelenting darkness &#8212; Messiah Politics.</p>
<p>Enter one Barack Obama, charismatic Chicago Machine pol.  Just as Bush has been cast as The Antichrist, so Obama has stepped into the role of the Coming Christ figure who will cast Bush the Beast and all his works into the Lake of Fire and usher in The Kingdom.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m really starting to be the contrairian around here.

The way I see it, we all live in America but we do not all believe America is a good country. If you say you love your wife yet want to change her height, weight, how she laughs, the way she talks, her opinions do you really love her? What if you feel that way about your country?

Both sides are guilty of this to some extent. Freedom is the cornerstone of this country. Freedom to succede, to fail, to associate with who we want, to say what we want, read what we want, watch what we want to follow whatever religion (or none at all) we want. 

At this point in our history, the Democrats want to choose who we can associate with,what religions should be expressed publically, to punish those who succede with high taxes and give it to those who fail or never even tried, and limit what we can say with &quot;hate crimes&quot; legislation. 

The Republicans want to take away our freedom to associate with who we want, seem to want to make laws enforce Christianity and marginalize (though not punish) all other religions, regulate what we can read and watch, encourage locust like success with little or no help for the failures.

I could probably go through each ammendent in the Bill of Rights and point out where each party is trying to walk over it.

If you tell me you want to kill your neighbor, ask me for a loan to go buy the gun to do it, am I complicit when you go shoot and kill your neighbor? What if you tell me specifically that you want the money to buy the gun to kill your neighbor?

Is abortion any different? If you provide support for people who are open about the fact that they want to kill unborn babies aren&#039;t you complicit in those murders?

While we may all be Americans we are NOT all on the same side. We are all after what&#039;s best for us and those like us or seems to be best. When was the last time you heard an elected official say &quot;Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country&quot; and mean it?

DD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m really starting to be the contrairian around here.</p>
<p>The way I see it, we all live in America but we do not all believe America is a good country. If you say you love your wife yet want to change her height, weight, how she laughs, the way she talks, her opinions do you really love her? What if you feel that way about your country?</p>
<p>Both sides are guilty of this to some extent. Freedom is the cornerstone of this country. Freedom to succede, to fail, to associate with who we want, to say what we want, read what we want, watch what we want to follow whatever religion (or none at all) we want. </p>
<p>At this point in our history, the Democrats want to choose who we can associate with,what religions should be expressed publically, to punish those who succede with high taxes and give it to those who fail or never even tried, and limit what we can say with &#8220;hate crimes&#8221; legislation. </p>
<p>The Republicans want to take away our freedom to associate with who we want, seem to want to make laws enforce Christianity and marginalize (though not punish) all other religions, regulate what we can read and watch, encourage locust like success with little or no help for the failures.</p>
<p>I could probably go through each ammendent in the Bill of Rights and point out where each party is trying to walk over it.</p>
<p>If you tell me you want to kill your neighbor, ask me for a loan to go buy the gun to do it, am I complicit when you go shoot and kill your neighbor? What if you tell me specifically that you want the money to buy the gun to kill your neighbor?</p>
<p>Is abortion any different? If you provide support for people who are open about the fact that they want to kill unborn babies aren&#8217;t you complicit in those murders?</p>
<p>While we may all be Americans we are NOT all on the same side. We are all after what&#8217;s best for us and those like us or seems to be best. When was the last time you heard an elected official say &#8220;Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country&#8221; and mean it?</p>
<p>DD</p>
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		<title>By: Bart M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;Sarah Palin is a Pentecostal?……..thats is dope….truly dope. Palin is the whole package…..sexy, smart, and charismatic. Peace out.

and a moose killer too...whoa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Sarah Palin is a Pentecostal?……..thats is dope….truly dope. Palin is the whole package…..sexy, smart, and charismatic. Peace out.</p>
<p>and a moose killer too&#8230;whoa!</p>
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