Comments on: Ground Rules: The Decision To Make It Personal http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal ...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:47:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Rey http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-11374 Rey Sat, 20 Jan 2007 04:58:58 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-11374 If I could start a slow clap right now I would, but we're on the web and no one would hear me much less read the following: ::clap. clap...clap..clap. clap clap clap clap..applause:: If I could start a slow clap right now I would, but we’re on the web and no one would hear me much less read the following:

::clap. clap…clap..clap. clap clap clap clap..applause::

]]> By: jsb http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10556 jsb Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:27:35 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10556 I really like your stuff, stop by often. I just wonder, is it more of a "I have to be right" or "I love to argue thing", or do you really think it matters to make everyone see your side of it? I know that is one reason you are so popular, you have strong opinions and stick by them. That's one reason I stop by because I am that way myself and I happen to agree with you 85% of the time (which is a rarity). I just have been noticing (and maybe this is just me reflecting myself on you because we agree with some stuff...i don't know b/c we have never met) that arguing is addictive and many times the fun of that is what drives me on, not the actual issues, as important as they may seem. i think I just need to ignore others' opinions of me and my thoughts, because, let's be realistic, only one opinion matters in the end, and I'm banking everything on the fact that He loves me, even when I'm mistaken. You don't have to post thins, I just wanted you to read it. Thank you , and keep writing for all the right reasons. jsb I really like your stuff, stop by often. I just wonder, is it more of a “I have to be right” or “I love to argue thing”, or do you really think it matters to make everyone see your side of it? I know that is one reason you are so popular, you have strong opinions and stick by them. That’s one reason I stop by because I am that way myself and I happen to agree with you 85% of the time (which is a rarity). I just have been noticing (and maybe this is just me reflecting myself on you because we agree with some stuff…i don’t know b/c we have never met) that arguing is addictive and many times the fun of that is what drives me on, not the actual issues, as important as they may seem. i think I just need to ignore others’ opinions of me and my thoughts, because, let’s be realistic, only one opinion matters in the end, and I’m banking everything on the fact that He loves me, even when I’m mistaken. You don’t have to post thins, I just wanted you to read it. Thank you , and keep writing for all the right reasons.
jsb

]]> By: Peaches http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10537 Peaches Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:53:48 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10537 Monk, I wandered over the blog in question here just to read for myself. What I did not find there was troubling to say the least. The five or six long posts I read were devoid of the fruit of the spirit. No where could I find the "mind which was also in Christ Jesus". I did find pride, anger, malice and brawling. It's a shame that he is a public face of our Lord. No wonder you have trouble with him. The ability to argue for the faith ( or about it) is not evidence of our new life. The proof our our new life is the regeneration of our spirit and the transformation of our character by the action of the spirit. More simply, "faith without works is dead." Monk,
I wandered over the blog in question here just to read for myself. What I did not find there was troubling to say the least. The five or six long posts I read were devoid of the fruit of the spirit. No where could I find the “mind which was also in Christ Jesus”. I did find pride, anger, malice and brawling. It’s a shame that he is a public face of our Lord.
No wonder you have trouble with him. The ability to argue for the faith ( or about it) is not evidence of our new life. The proof our our new life is the regeneration of our spirit and the transformation of our character by the action of the spirit. More simply, “faith without works is dead.”

]]> By: teawhisk http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10397 teawhisk Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:09:51 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10397 Well Mr. Spencer, White sure has devoted a lot of bandwidth to someone he doesn't think about. His version of the gospel cracks me up: "God loves ME but he may or may not love YOU." What sort of good news is this? But I'm afraid that sooner or later this will be the Gospel of the SBC as well. Well Mr. Spencer, White sure has devoted a lot of bandwidth to someone he doesn’t think about.

His version of the gospel cracks me up: “God loves ME but he may or may not love YOU.” What sort of good news is this?

But I’m afraid that sooner or later this will be the Gospel of the SBC as well.

]]> By: bruce http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10339 bruce Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:40:24 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10339 Michael, Your problem is you have ISSUES. :) But, then again, we all have issues don't we? Even Mr W. Keep up the good work. Michael,

Your problem is you have ISSUES. :)

But, then again, we all have issues don’t we? Even Mr W.

Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Kyle Potter http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10112 Kyle Potter Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:57:46 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10112 I liked reading this. And I hope to be so mature some day. :0) Also, just to say, when you talk about what the TR watchbloggers are writing, I feel like I need a shower. Blessings, Kyle I liked reading this. And I hope to be so mature some day. :0)

Also, just to say, when you talk about what the TR watchbloggers are writing, I feel like I need a shower.

Blessings,
Kyle

]]> By: CAndiron http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10109 CAndiron Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:00:08 +0000 http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/ground-rules-th-decision-to-make-it-personal#comment-10109 Yes, I tend to think he spends to much time responding to specific critics and I don't see the usefulness of it (I mean, I'm sure even a gang of envoy trolls *knows* at some level what they're doing is not serious apologetics, and it won't change them or their readers in the slightest to reply to them personally). The overall response to their arguments is the only important thing, and that doesn't necessitate getting personal. In fact, I've had the *exact* same thoughts you have (ie. 'Piper, Sproul, etc. do not do this'). That said, I think your original post was just as much personal a reference to him as his was, even though you didn't mention his name, so you can't really criticize him for the 1/12 post - fair is fair. Also, your original post seemed to be a brief reaction or impression you had of the show. Why don't you want to go into the issues he raised point by point? I don't think he's *committed* to calling you biased - he's just frustrated you won't go into a more detailed analysis and defense of your position. An endless discussion would be preferable to this perpetually recurring episodes of flaming. Yes, I tend to think he spends to much time responding to specific critics and I don’t see the usefulness of it (I mean, I’m sure even a gang of envoy trolls *knows* at some level what they’re doing is not serious apologetics, and it won’t change them or their readers in the slightest to reply to them personally). The overall response to their arguments is the only important thing, and that doesn’t necessitate getting personal. In fact, I’ve had the *exact* same thoughts you have (ie. ‘Piper, Sproul, etc. do not do this’).

That said, I think your original post was just as much personal a reference to him as his was, even though you didn’t mention his name, so you can’t really criticize him for the 1/12 post - fair is fair.

Also, your original post seemed to be a brief reaction or impression you had of the show. Why don’t you want to go into the issues he raised point by point? I don’t think he’s *committed* to calling you biased - he’s just frustrated you won’t go into a more detailed analysis and defense of your position.

An endless discussion would be preferable to this perpetually recurring episodes of flaming.

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