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	<title>Comments on: Congratulations and Prayers for Our President-Elect, Barack Obama</title>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/congratulations-and-prayers-for-our-president-elect-barack-obama/comment-page-2#comment-313956</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Prop 8 passed.  You can hear the screaming and foaming all over LiveJournal.

And it&#039;s passage has been credited to Barack Obama.  His election for the top spot brought about HEAVY black turnout, and the black community is very straitlaced when it comes to homosexuality.  So is the &quot;Hispanic/Latino&quot; community (which in California means mostly Mexican).  And the Arab community.  All these subcultures have &quot;hypermasculine&quot; expectations for their males, which produces a visceral reaction against anything which lessens perceived masculinity.  (Ain&#039;t Multicultural Diversity fun?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Prop 8 passed.  You can hear the screaming and foaming all over LiveJournal.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s passage has been credited to Barack Obama.  His election for the top spot brought about HEAVY black turnout, and the black community is very straitlaced when it comes to homosexuality.  So is the &#8220;Hispanic/Latino&#8221; community (which in California means mostly Mexican).  And the Arab community.  All these subcultures have &#8220;hypermasculine&#8221; expectations for their males, which produces a visceral reaction against anything which lessens perceived masculinity.  (Ain&#8217;t Multicultural Diversity fun?)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

 When I had gone to bed on election night, all the news casts said Prop 8 was defeated in a very close race. Apparently, by morning the vote tally said otherwise, and being depressed, I didn&#039;t listen to any news broadcasts the next morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p> When I had gone to bed on election night, all the news casts said Prop 8 was defeated in a very close race. Apparently, by morning the vote tally said otherwise, and being depressed, I didn&#8217;t listen to any news broadcasts the next morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Shelton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Shelton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Ky boy:

Some may conclude it is just a matter of skin color.  But it could also be argued that leadership consists of more than just a particular position on particular issues.  If one only needs to meet A-B paramaters on chosen issues then a robot could lead the country.  I suggest you attempt to broaden your definition of what it takes to be an effective leader to include vision and inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Ky boy:</p>
<p>Some may conclude it is just a matter of skin color.  But it could also be argued that leadership consists of more than just a particular position on particular issues.  If one only needs to meet A-B paramaters on chosen issues then a robot could lead the country.  I suggest you attempt to broaden your definition of what it takes to be an effective leader to include vision and inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What policies do millions black people (I am one) supposedly disagree with Obama?  School vouchers?  Blacks would have voted for Hillary in the same proportion over McCain -- although about 1 million fewer of us would have voted.  Until the GOP purges the racist elements in their party that are still a significant minority of the GOP, blacks will remain 90+% democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What policies do millions black people (I am one) supposedly disagree with Obama?  School vouchers?  Blacks would have voted for Hillary in the same proportion over McCain &#8212; although about 1 million fewer of us would have voted.  Until the GOP purges the racist elements in their party that are still a significant minority of the GOP, blacks will remain 90+% democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From all the way down here in Australia, I heartily second and endorse (wait, isn&#039;t that a political word?) prayers for Obama, Biden and their respective families.

And not only them. But also Senator McCain, Governor Palin, outgoing President Bush and all of their families. And lastly, for the United States of America. Am hoping and praying that this doesn&#039;t lead to any further culture wars and that the the people of the USA can unify and help by working their hardest and smartest so that the USA get its mojo back sooner rather than later. (wait, that might be an unfortunate choice of words... :p).

Pax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From all the way down here in Australia, I heartily second and endorse (wait, isn&#8217;t that a political word?) prayers for Obama, Biden and their respective families.</p>
<p>And not only them. But also Senator McCain, Governor Palin, outgoing President Bush and all of their families. And lastly, for the United States of America. Am hoping and praying that this doesn&#8217;t lead to any further culture wars and that the the people of the USA can unify and help by working their hardest and smartest so that the USA get its mojo back sooner rather than later. (wait, that might be an unfortunate choice of words&#8230; :p).</p>
<p>Pax.</p>
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		<title>By: Ky boy but not now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ky boy but not now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fr. Ernesto

&quot;Have you ever asked yourself why minorities who are so clearly against [Obama&#039;s policies] voted for President-elect Obama?&quot;

My wife works in a group of mostly minorities. This has been a discussion point for months. It boils down to the color of his skin trumps his policies for this election. Hopefully this will change for future elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fr. Ernesto</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you ever asked yourself why minorities who are so clearly against [Obama's policies] voted for President-elect Obama?&#8221;</p>
<p>My wife works in a group of mostly minorities. This has been a discussion point for months. It boils down to the color of his skin trumps his policies for this election. Hopefully this will change for future elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACTUALLY, in California, there already was a gay marriage ban voted on in a previous year by the people, BUT the activist judges struck it down.  It was Proposition 22 in 2000.  So basically the people just reiterated their voice and await further rulings from the State Supreme Court oligarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACTUALLY, in California, there already was a gay marriage ban voted on in a previous year by the people, BUT the activist judges struck it down.  It was Proposition 22 in 2000.  So basically the people just reiterated their voice and await further rulings from the State Supreme Court oligarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Democrat who supported and voted for Obama. I am a Christian and my trust(faith)is in God, and not man. I don&#039;t look to government for spiritual leadership nor for moral laws other than the basic laws of the land..intended for good...and rooted in natural law (Ten Commandments).  There already exists a legislated morality..the Law of God. The President and the political parties were never intended to be the Shepherd.  The powers that be are &#039;ordained&#039; of God and we are subject to them...for good.  But everything that is legal is not of God.   God gives man the authority to choose heaven or hell.....and government cannot legislate any law to change what God has ordained.

I feel compassion for the confusion and frustration felt by Americans disappointed by the outcome of the elections.  I feel deeply for the grief and disappointment of McCain and Palin.  It is no light matter to go through that kind of disappointment.  Last night, I deeply felt Obama&#039;s sober awareness of the place he has taken in history.  I believe Obama is meant to be in this place in history....at this time.....to fulfill a purpose known only to God. 
  
As Christians, we are better served to focus on the things that are good, lovely, and kind in our world...and on the unrestrained MERCY and BLESSINGS of God on this nation...&#039;it rains on the just and the unjust.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Democrat who supported and voted for Obama. I am a Christian and my trust(faith)is in God, and not man. I don&#8217;t look to government for spiritual leadership nor for moral laws other than the basic laws of the land..intended for good&#8230;and rooted in natural law (Ten Commandments).  There already exists a legislated morality..the Law of God. The President and the political parties were never intended to be the Shepherd.  The powers that be are &#8216;ordained&#8217; of God and we are subject to them&#8230;for good.  But everything that is legal is not of God.   God gives man the authority to choose heaven or hell&#8230;..and government cannot legislate any law to change what God has ordained.</p>
<p>I feel compassion for the confusion and frustration felt by Americans disappointed by the outcome of the elections.  I feel deeply for the grief and disappointment of McCain and Palin.  It is no light matter to go through that kind of disappointment.  Last night, I deeply felt Obama&#8217;s sober awareness of the place he has taken in history.  I believe Obama is meant to be in this place in history&#8230;.at this time&#8230;..to fulfill a purpose known only to God. </p>
<p>As Christians, we are better served to focus on the things that are good, lovely, and kind in our world&#8230;and on the unrestrained MERCY and BLESSINGS of God on this nation&#8230;&#8217;it rains on the just and the unjust.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Sherwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that Michael.  I was thinking about those same Scriptures today.  No matter our political persuasion, we are called to pray and honor our rulers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Michael.  I was thinking about those same Scriptures today.  No matter our political persuasion, we are called to pray and honor our rulers.</p>
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		<title>By: iMonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to have an abortion debate in this thread. How another person votes is THEIR conscience.</description>
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