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		<title>Now I&#8217;m Scared. Really.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chaplain Mike</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Chaplain Mike.
The Middle East is front page news again this week, and agreement and peace are nowhere in sight. Watch the following video and get a whole new angle on the story.
Is this man and the movement he represents the ones you want influencing the Prime Minister of Israel and U.S. policy in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>By Chaplain Mike.</em></strong></p>
<p>The Middle East is front page news again this week, and agreement and peace are nowhere in sight. Watch the following video and get a whole new angle on the story.</p>
<p><em>Is this man and the movement he represents the ones you want influencing the Prime Minister of Israel and U.S. policy in the Middle East?</em> It&#8217;s happening.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/10034685">Pastor Hagee in Jerusalem 3/8/10 (Part II)</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user3344487">Max J Blumenthal</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Jewish report and opinion on the <em>&#8220;new breed of  Christian Zionists&#8221;</em> who are not content to wait on God&#8217;s timing to see the future come to pass, but who  feel that they are divinely called to move the hands of the prophetic  clock: <a href="http://zeek.forward.com/articles/116518/">http://zeek.forward.com/articles/116518/</a>.</p>
<p>Culture war Christianity was scary enough, and IMHO, deeply harmful to the true cause of Christ in the world. What shall we say about this radical combination of prosperity gospel and dispensationalism being applied to foreign policy?</p>
<p>I say it&#8217;s ludicrous theology, and dangerous intervention by careless zealots.</p>
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		<title>Open Mic: What If?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chaplain Mike</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Chaplain Mike.
A difficult conversation today brought to mind Luther&#8217;s Small Catechism and what it has to say about the Eighth Commandment:
The Eighth Commandment.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
What does this mean?
Answer.
We should fear and love God that we may not deceitfully belie, betray, slander, or defame our neighbor, but defend him, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong><img class="alignright" src="http://nickbaines.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/martin-luther.jpg" alt="" width="176" height="250" />From Chaplain Mike.</strong></em></p>
<p>A difficult conversation today brought to mind <a href="http://www.bookofconcord.org/smallcatechism.php">Luther&#8217;s Small Catechism</a> and what it has to say about the Eighth Commandment:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>The Eighth Commandment.</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;">Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><em>What does this mean?</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Answer.</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;">We should fear and love God that we may not deceitfully belie, betray, slander, or defame our neighbor, but defend him, [think and] speak well of him, and put the best construction on everything.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Our Open Mic question today is a practical one:</p>
<p><em>How do you think your life and mine would be different if we lived by this standard? What would it be like in Christian congregations? How might our relationships with our neighbors and the world in general change?</em></p>
<p>I know the first thing I would do—cry out to God for mercy, using Isaiah&#8217;s prayer: <em>&#8220;Woe is me! I am lost, for I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips&#8230;&#8221; (<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Isa+6.5" class="bibleref" title="ESV Isa 6.5">Isa 6.5</a>)<br />
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<p>Your turn.<em><br />
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		<title>Positive Press for Evangelicals</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chaplain Mike</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Noted by Chaplain Mike&#8230;
You might be surprised to find a positive, affirming article about evangelicals in the secular press, but Nicholas D. Kristoff of the New York Times wrote an op-ed this weekend called &#8220;Learning from the Sin of Sodom&#8221; that praises evangelicals such as World Vision for the excellent work they are doing to [...]]]></description>
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<p>You might be surprised to find a positive, affirming article about evangelicals in the secular press, but Nicholas D. Kristoff of the New York Times wrote an op-ed this weekend called &#8220;<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/opinion/28kristof.html">Learning from the Sin of Sodom</a>&#8221; that praises evangelicals such as World Vision for the excellent work they are doing to meet real needs around the world.</p>
<p>In an <a href="http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/27/your-comments-on-my-evangelicals-column/">addendum to the piece</a>, Kristoff summarized his main point by saying this:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>There’s a tendency for liberals to devote lots of ink to decrying  conservative Christians, because of their positions on social issues. I  disagree strongly with typical evangelical positions on gay marriage,  abortion, abstinence only education — but I also think that liberals  don’t appreciate the impact of the arrival of evangelicals into  humanitarian space or give sufficient credit for that change.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Thank God for rightful recognition given. Perhaps this is a positive sign that the evangelical movement has turned a corner, leaving further behind failed culture war strategies and focusing more on serving the needy and working for justice. At any rate, others are watching and are impressed by the quality of missional work being done by Christians.</p>
<p>In the conclusion to his op-ed, Kristoff challenges secularists and religious alike, encouraging us to abandon some of our ingrained distrust of the other in order to work more in partnership for the common good.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>If secular liberals can give up some of their snootiness, and if  evangelicals can retire some of their sanctimony, then we all might  succeed together in making greater progress against common enemies of  humanity, like illiteracy, human trafficking and maternal mortality.</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Coming Up: Bryan Cross Interview + Catholic Resources</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few Catholic oriented items here at IM, freely borrowing from other blogs.
I&#8217;m going to surprise a lot of you with an interview post with Catholic blogger Bryan Cross, writer at Principium Unitatis. I&#8217;ve often been a bit snarky to Bryan, but when it comes to the subject of Christian unity, he&#8217;s really an eloquent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-content/uploads/Snapshot-2008-12-31-11-21-06-150x150.jpg" hspace=5 align=left alt="Snapshot 2008-12-31 11-21-06" title="Snapshot 2008-12-31 11-21-06" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4867" />A few Catholic oriented items here at IM, freely borrowing from other blogs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to surprise a lot of you with an interview post with Catholic blogger Bryan Cross, writer at <a href="http://principiumunitatis.blogspot.com/">Principium Unitatis</a>. I&#8217;ve often been a bit snarky to Bryan, but when it comes to the subject of Christian unity, he&#8217;s really an eloquent and optimistic Catholic voice. Read his blog bio and you&#8217;ll see he&#8217;s had a fascinating journey. I&#8217;ll be asking him questions about the recent Anglican arrangement and the overall issue of Christian unity.</p>
<p>Bryan&#8217;s blog was the original source for some excellent lectures by Ave Maria University professor Dr. Lawrence Feingold. <a href="http://hebrewcatholic.org/themesoftheearly.html">His current collection are portraits of the Early Church Fathers</a>. Dr. Feingold is an outstanding teacher, whether you agree with him or not. <a href="http://hebrewcatholic.org/Studies/MysteryofIsraelChurch/mysteryofisraela.html">The entire series on The Church and Israel is outstanding Catholic teaching</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://principiumunitatis.blogspot.com/2009/10/fr-barron-protestantism-and-authority.html">Fr. Walter Barron has a review of Alastair McGrath&#8217;s <em>Christianity&#8217;s Dangerous Idea</em> and a discussion of the issue of Church authority</a>.<span id="more-4866"></span></p>
<p>When I interview Bryan. We&#8217;ll talk a bit about <a href="http://mockingbirdnyc.blogspot.com/2009/10/all-romery-people.html">JDK&#8217;s post at Mockingbird, All The Romery People</a>. What is the real reason you&#8217;re not Roman Catholic?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read Amy Welborn when she was at Beliefnet. <a href="http://amywelborn.wordpress.com/">Now she&#8217;s back at her own blog</a>, and we all need to be regularly reading her. One of the best bloggers.</p>
<p><a href="http://gkupsidedown.blogspot.com/">Dwight Longnecker&#8217;s blog is a fine blog by a Protestant convert who is a married priest and a good preacher</a>. Fr. Longnecker knows a lot about the road from Anglicanism to Rome, <a href="http://gkupsidedown.blogspot.com/2009/10/personal-ordinariate-background.html">as his post today demonstrates</a>. Here&#8217;s a sample:<br />
<blockquote> Pope Benedict&#8217;s move this week will have similar impact in the world of Christian dialogue. With Personal Ordinariates not only have the professional ecumenists been shown the way forward, but the duplicitous liberal Catholic bishops who would have stalled, moved it into &#8216;discussion groups&#8217; and presented &#8216;further obstacles&#8217; have also been very effectively gone around. No longer will a gifted, willing and able convert priest have to wait years to be ordained and in the meantime be pushed from pillar to post by Catholic bishops who are driven by a liberal agenda that is actually illiberal.</p>
<p>Finally, the English and Americans should stop being so parochial and offended. Pope Benedict did not make this move to offend the Church of England or to poach people from the Episcopal Church. He was responding to pleas from people who have already left or are planning to leave the Anglican Church. Furthermore, he is aware of the tremendous growth of both the Catholic and Anglican Churches in the developing world. I believe he has his eye on the faithful Catholics and Anglicans in Africa and Asia, and that he hopes this move will enable them to join together in a young, new and energetic alliance for the twenty first century.</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://gkupsidedown.blogspot.com/2009/10/implications-of-po.html">A great little summary here</a>. Always worth reading.</p>
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		<title>Noted: Interview with Soong-Chan Rah + Hayley Westenra + Misc.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sojourners is running a two-part interview with Soong-Chan Rah, author of The Next Evangelicalism.
If you missed it, some Covenant Presbyterian Church members have joined the conversation at the link about church architecture. Remember that you can subscribe to comments as a separate feed here at IM.
I made 900 Facebook friends today. If you want to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/06/the-next-evangelicalism-interview-with-soong-chan-rah/">Sojourners is running a two-part interview with Soong-Chan Rah, author of The Next Evangelicalism.</a></p>
<p>If you missed it, <a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/riffs-081209-architecture-for-the-glory-of-god">some Covenant Presbyterian Church members have joined the conversation at the link about church architecture</a>. Remember that you can subscribe to comments as a separate feed here at IM.</p>
<p>I made 900 Facebook friends today. If you want to be FB friends or follow me on Twitter, there are icons for those links at the bottom of the page. You can also subscribe to the podcast via iTunes as well. (A note to people who invite me to things like &#8220;Mafia wars.&#8221; No offense, but get a copy of &#8220;Don&#8217;t Waste Your Life&#8221; and read it.)</p>
<p>I have returned to school after more than a month off. This will really mess with my daily work schedule for a while. The daily priorities are 1) prayer 2) sermon prep  3) class prep 4) work on the book 5) blogging and 6) podcasting. So you will probably see a bit less content than I&#8217;ve cranked out since July. I haven&#8217;t touched the book in a week, so I really need to get back in the groove.</p>
<p>A lot happening spiritually with my ministry and co-workers. Pray for us. &#8220;Be not afraid,&#8221; Jesus said. &#8220;Cast your cares&#8221; on the Lord is a special word for those who are supposed to &#8220;care.&#8221; You can&#8217;t &#8220;care&#8221; for what is in God&#8217;s hands! Know your place and know His Fatherly strength.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s Hayley Westenra, the most beautiful voice in New Zealand, singing &#8220;May It Be&#8221; from Lord of the Rings. Enjoy the beauty.</p>
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		<title>A Special Message From Michael For Any Church Seeking a Pastor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 01:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[No. I&#8217;m not looking to change jobs. I have a friend I want to recommend.

If you are interested in more information about my friend, write me at michael@internetmonk.com and I will mail current resumes, links to recent sermons and his blog posts.
Please pray for my friend and his family. I&#8217;d love to say a lot [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. I&#8217;m not looking to change jobs. I have a friend I want to recommend.</p>
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<p>If you are interested in more information about my friend, write me at <a href="mailto: michael@internetmonk.com">michael@internetmonk.com</a> and I will mail current resumes, links to recent sermons and his blog posts.</p>
<p>Please pray for my friend and his family. I&#8217;d love to say a lot more, but I hope this will be helpful.</p>
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		<title>Things NOT To Do At A Catholic Mass: Lesson One</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: Wafergate seems to have been resolved.
If you are the PM of Canada, don&#8217;t appear to pocket the host.

More on this story at the Holy Post.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: <a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/holy-post/archive/2009/07/09/wafergate-the-sequel.aspx">Wafergate seems to have been resolved</a>.</p>
<p>If you are the PM of Canada, don&#8217;t appear to pocket the host.</p>
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<p><a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/holy-post/archive/2009/07/08/harper-accepted-host-consumed-it-pm-s-office-says.aspx">More on this story at the Holy Post.</a></p>
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		<title>Question: Is Evangelism Child Abuse?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My last post has stirred up some, uh&#8230;.&#8221;interesting&#8221; commentary and email. To the point: in the view of some people, evangelism of teenagers is abusive and unethical. Since I&#8217;m a preacher who preaches the Gospel to teenagers with an appeal for their conversion, I&#8217;m engaged in abusive behavior.
This especially seems to to apply, to some, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-content/uploads/chrishill_pointministering.jpg" hspace=5 align=left  alt="chrishill_pointministering" title="chrishill_pointministering" width="216" height="140" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3386" />My last post has stirred up some, uh&#8230;.&#8221;interesting&#8221; commentary and email. To the point: in the view of some people, evangelism of teenagers is abusive and unethical. Since I&#8217;m a preacher who preaches the Gospel to teenagers with an appeal for their conversion, I&#8217;m engaged in abusive behavior.</p>
<p>This especially seems to to apply, to some, to the cases of those who are stated unbelievers or atheists. If I know that is their position, then to evangelize at all is to be disrespectful and manipulative. These young people should not have to hear Christian appeals for conversion and it is entirely appropriate to see this kind of activity as unethical pressure tactics on those least able to resist.</p>
<p>These claims hit close to home. I&#8217;ve devoted most of my life to evangelizing students, and I am not bashful about it. That said, I am just as passionate to reject all unethical methods, pressure tactics and manipulation. Scripture, in fact, commands me to abandon and oppose any underhanded or unethical use of the Gospel. I am told to serve and love others in Jesus&#8217; name, and to proclaim/teach the Gospel with faith and submission to Christ at the center. I am given specific instructions to honor God in evangelism by leaving matters of the heart and conscience to him. My calling is to love, communicate and relate. I am an incarnational proclaimer of the Good News. I can&#8217;t manipulate and represent Jesus. I also can&#8217;t equivocate and represent Jesus.<span id="more-3385"></span></p>
<p>When I deal with students, I am straight up about evangelism. If they take my class, I will occasionally explain the Gospel to them. I stress that their beliefs are welcome to be shared as well. I use no decisional tactics and I have no personal interest as a teacher in what a student does with the claims of Christ. I pray for these students, and would find it impossible to pray for them without praying that they come to know Christ.</p>
<p>I am just as honest about preaching. I give full permission to ignore or reject whatever I say, but I am straightforward that my calling and vocation is to proclaim, explain and apply the Gospel. I use no altar call. I use no tactics or manipulations of any kind. It&#8217;s the Gospel, an appeal to believe, a prayer and I leave it with them and the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>I tell my students that I am completely open to being evangelized by them. I invite questions and I ask questions. Because I am in a Christian school with a missions focus, I have many non-Christians in my Bible classes and preaching services. We have dialog constantly. It&#8217;s a natural outgrowth of the diversity of our school.</p>
<p>I can see that the handwriting is on the wall. Those who speak of Christ, even in a private school, are going to be labeled abusive. Those who seek for decisions from anyone uner 18 is going to be called a child abuser. Ministries to young people will come under increased scrutiny for everything they do if there stated goal is to bring about conversion.</p>
<p><strong>Do the ethical issues associated with conversion mean evangelism with anyone under 18 is immoral and unethical? What do you think?</strong></p>
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		<title>Noted: St. Basil has a very good idea</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[St. Basil the Great had the right idea.
At such a time, then, there is need of great effort and diligence that the Churches may in some way be benefited. It is an advantage that parts hitherto severed should be united. Union would be effected if we were willing to accommodate ourselves to the weaker, where [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/saint_basil_icon02.jpg'><img src="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/saint_basil_icon02-201x300.jpg" hspace=5 align=right alt="" title="saint_basil_icon02" width="201" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-61340" /></a>St. Basil the Great had the right idea.<br />
<blockquote>At such a time, then, there is need of great effort and diligence that the Churches may in some way be benefited. It is an advantage that parts hitherto severed should be united. Union would be effected if we were willing to accommodate ourselves to the weaker, where we can do so without injury to souls; since, then, many mouths are open against the Holy Spirit, and many tongues whetted to blasphemy against Him, we implore you, as far as in you lies, to reduce the blasphemers to a small number, and to receive into communion all who do not assert the Holy Spirit to be a creature, that the blasphemers may be left alone, and may either be ashamed and return to the truth, or, if they abide in their error, may cease to have any importance from the smallness of their numbers.</p>
<p>Let us then seek no more than this, but propose to all the brethren, who are willing to join us, the Nicene Creed. If they assent to that, let us further require that the Holy Spirit ought not to be called a creature, nor any of those who say so be received into communion. I do not think that we ought to insist upon anything beyond this. For I am convinced that by longer communication and mutual experience without strife, if anything more requires to be added by way of explanation, the Lord Who works all things together for good for them that love Him, will grant it.</p></blockquote>
<p> -St. Basil the Great, Letter 113: To the Presbyters of Tarsus</p>
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		<title>Noted: John Armstrong on The &#8220;Easy&#8221; God</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: Trevin Wax posts this Phillip Yancey/Karl Barth quote.

“I have learned one absolute principle in calculating God’s presence or absence, and that is that I cannot. God, invisible, sovereign, who according to the psalmist “does whatever pleases him,” sets the terms of the relationship. As the theologian Karl Barth insisted so fiercely, God is free: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: Trevin Wax posts this Phillip Yancey/Karl Barth quote.<br />
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“I have learned one absolute principle in calculating God’s presence or absence, and that is that I cannot. God, invisible, sovereign, who according to the psalmist “does whatever pleases him,” sets the terms of the relationship. As the theologian Karl Barth insisted so fiercely, God is free: free to reveal himself or conceal himself, to intervene or not intervene, to work within nature or outside it, to rule over the world or even to be despised and rejected by the world, to display himself or limit himself. Our own human freedom derives from a God who cherishes freedom.</p>
<p>“I cannot control such a God. At best I can put myself in the proper frame to meet him. I can confess sin, remove hindrances, purify my life, wait expectantly, and &#8211; perhaps hardest of all &#8211; seek solitude and silence. I offer no guaranteed method to obtain God’s presence, for God alone governs that.”</p>
<p>- Philip Yancey, Reaching for the Invisible God, pg. 121</p></blockquote>
<p>HT to Bill Kinnon for this fine quote from <a href="http://johnharmstrong.typepad.com/john_h_armstrong_/2008/06/knowing-god.html">John Armstrong</a>.<br />
<blockquote>The mystic Catholic, Thomas Merton, once noted that: “If you find God with great ease, perhaps it is not God that you have found.”</p>
<p><a href='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/merton.jpg'><img src="http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/merton.jpg" hspace=5 align=left alt="" title="merton" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2121" /></a>This statement underscores one of the deepest problems I have encountered over the course of my own life. I settled for thinking that I knew God, or God’s will or purpose, when I am quite sure that I was overconfident many times. The ease with which I spoke, and the ease with which I processed this knowledge, should have warned me but I was too dull oft times. </p>
<p>Theologians rightly speak of the deus absconditus, or of the God who is absconds, or is absent. The Psalmist knew this reality and do did Mother Teresa. Great mystics have known it and so have ordinary saints. Luther and Calvin knew it too. Just when we think we have God, or we have figured him out, he is absent from us again. He will be sought but finding is on his terms. He will be known, but not because we are so wise. His grace is for all, but not all find it unless they seek it. Ours is an age for “easy” this and that. Knowing God will never fit into the category of something called “easy.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll dedicate this to all those folks who don&#8217;t get it when I say I&#8217;m rediscovering what I believe about the God I know in Jesus.</p>
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