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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Irenicum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irenicum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully written Michael. Thanks for the reminder as I still drive in circles insisting I&#039;m not lost!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully written Michael. Thanks for the reminder as I still drive in circles insisting I&#8217;m not lost!</p>
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		<title>By: Memphis Aggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Memphis Aggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
 You&#039;re pointing the right way.  Just look down this site.  What have been your messages: don&#039;t get distracted by politics or theology, focus on Christ.  Mix into that a healthy recognition of past failures in that excellent mirror post. That makes you credible as a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
 You&#8217;re pointing the right way.  Just look down this site.  What have been your messages: don&#8217;t get distracted by politics or theology, focus on Christ.  Mix into that a healthy recognition of past failures in that excellent mirror post. That makes you credible as a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy Gauvin</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/be-a-sign/comment-page-1#comment-164242</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy Gauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

&quot;They speak the language of the culture, but point away opposite the manger, the cross and the Christ to something quite different. At the most crucial moment, they avoid the Gospel and point to something else.&quot;

Thank you for the profound reminder of our calling. Too bad you&#039;re not a Lutheran--you aptly refer to a theology of the cross as opposed to a theology of glory. 

By the way, I have been accepted into the MDiv program at the Lutheran Theological Seminary at Gettysburg for Fall 2008. Thak you for helping me to stay focused on the mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>&#8220;They speak the language of the culture, but point away opposite the manger, the cross and the Christ to something quite different. At the most crucial moment, they avoid the Gospel and point to something else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for the profound reminder of our calling. Too bad you&#8217;re not a Lutheran&#8211;you aptly refer to a theology of the cross as opposed to a theology of glory. </p>
<p>By the way, I have been accepted into the MDiv program at the Lutheran Theological Seminary at Gettysburg for Fall 2008. Thak you for helping me to stay focused on the mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Magness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan Magness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for this post.  This is why I appreciated the conversation in the trap-door post. 
I am often tempted to put up signs that misdirect people.  My life and my teaching will necessarily point to something.  (I suppose I am a sign whether I like it or not.)

Sometimes, I fear that in my zeal for theological purity, I trick people on their way to Christ by putting up a sign at the last minute that points to a theological system.

Or on other days, I distract them with social justice  or even biblical knowledge.  

I particularly like the sign metaphor because signs don&#039;t have to be beautiful or glorious, they just have to point in the right direction. 

If I can risk pushing the metaphor to far, I think that part of our problem is that we can be so focused on making the sign itself attractive that we forget to make sure it points in the right direction.  I serve in a mega-church.  Our biggest risk is that the institution can become so attractive that people never get past admiring what a pretty sign we are and we stop pointing anywhere.

This can also happen with doctrinal systems.  You addressed this concern well in the trap-door post.

Thanks for the reminder to re-direct our signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this post.  This is why I appreciated the conversation in the trap-door post.<br />
I am often tempted to put up signs that misdirect people.  My life and my teaching will necessarily point to something.  (I suppose I am a sign whether I like it or not.)</p>
<p>Sometimes, I fear that in my zeal for theological purity, I trick people on their way to Christ by putting up a sign at the last minute that points to a theological system.</p>
<p>Or on other days, I distract them with social justice  or even biblical knowledge.  </p>
<p>I particularly like the sign metaphor because signs don&#8217;t have to be beautiful or glorious, they just have to point in the right direction. </p>
<p>If I can risk pushing the metaphor to far, I think that part of our problem is that we can be so focused on making the sign itself attractive that we forget to make sure it points in the right direction.  I serve in a mega-church.  Our biggest risk is that the institution can become so attractive that people never get past admiring what a pretty sign we are and we stop pointing anywhere.</p>
<p>This can also happen with doctrinal systems.  You addressed this concern well in the trap-door post.</p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder to re-direct our signs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was not refering to miraculous signs and wonders.

&lt;em&gt;We are called by Jesus to be living stones of remembrance. We are lights in the world. We are to be the opposite of the “blind guides” who lead the world into the ditch. Our communities are “cities on a hill,” previewing the City of God where all nations come to the banquet of the Messiah.

We are living letters, with the name of our God and his messiah placed on us in plain view. Like Paul, our goal is to say “If you do not know Christ, look at me; listen to me; and you will see him and hear him.” We pray that the Holy Spirit will make us like Christ and give us the power to love and serve others as signs of the savior.

A sign may be a small thing, but to someone trying to find their way, it is a welcome friend. And if the sign can be trusted, it can bring the searcher much nearer home.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not refering to miraculous signs and wonders.</p>
<p><em>We are called by Jesus to be living stones of remembrance. We are lights in the world. We are to be the opposite of the “blind guides” who lead the world into the ditch. Our communities are “cities on a hill,” previewing the City of God where all nations come to the banquet of the Messiah.</p>
<p>We are living letters, with the name of our God and his messiah placed on us in plain view. Like Paul, our goal is to say “If you do not know Christ, look at me; listen to me; and you will see him and hear him.” We pray that the Holy Spirit will make us like Christ and give us the power to love and serve others as signs of the savior.</p>
<p>A sign may be a small thing, but to someone trying to find their way, it is a welcome friend. And if the sign can be trusted, it can bring the searcher much nearer home.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Lauren at Faith Fuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren at Faith Fuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat 16:4b says &quot;A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign&quot;. I wonder about the world&#039;s responsibility to look for the right things. 

If I am a sign- poorly placed, old and rusty, I&#039;m responsible, yes, for pointing others to Christ. I can point people in the wrong direction, if you look at me in a bad vile moment- but that&#039;s also what I think many unbelievers are looking for: Christians acting badly so that they can discount the message of the gospel because we are not living holy lives.

Didn&#039;t Jesus call us to be His followers, His friends even? He never told us to be signs. I think He can takes care of the signs and wonders part quite spectacularly.

So maybe when people look at my life, with my achievements and my times when I point you down the wrong road because I&#039;m in a bad way, maybe I can be a sinner saved by grace- and not the sign that you seek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Mat+16" class="bibleref" title="ESV Mat 16">Mat 16</a>:4b says &#8220;A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign&#8221;. I wonder about the world&#8217;s responsibility to look for the right things. </p>
<p>If I am a sign- poorly placed, old and rusty, I&#8217;m responsible, yes, for pointing others to Christ. I can point people in the wrong direction, if you look at me in a bad vile moment- but that&#8217;s also what I think many unbelievers are looking for: Christians acting badly so that they can discount the message of the gospel because we are not living holy lives.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Jesus call us to be His followers, His friends even? He never told us to be signs. I think He can takes care of the signs and wonders part quite spectacularly.</p>
<p>So maybe when people look at my life, with my achievements and my times when I point you down the wrong road because I&#8217;m in a bad way, maybe I can be a sinner saved by grace- and not the sign that you seek.</p>
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