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	<title>Comments on: A Rant on The Baptism</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/a-rant-on-the-baptism/comment-page-1#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you- which I&#039;m sure means a lot :)- up to the point that you speak of tongues as a &quot;non-existent&quot; gift. I still believe God does what he wants and gives whatever gifts He chooses. Paul did say that he spoke in tongues and wished all the Corinthians did too, although he admonished them that is was the least of the gifts.

Obviously your experience was a sour one, but not all those who claim a gift are faking or bending to group pressure, regardless of how TBN sadly impresses us. 

I thought you made wonderful points. HS baptism, is too often not understood as the birth of grace into the Body that it is, and tongues, and other gifts, are often faked, abused, and used for a pitiful dividing line. But I couldn&#039;t say &quot;not there&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you- which I&#8217;m sure means a lot <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> - up to the point that you speak of tongues as a &#8220;non-existent&#8221; gift. I still believe God does what he wants and gives whatever gifts He chooses. Paul did say that he spoke in tongues and wished all the Corinthians did too, although he admonished them that is was the least of the gifts.</p>
<p>Obviously your experience was a sour one, but not all those who claim a gift are faking or bending to group pressure, regardless of how TBN sadly impresses us. </p>
<p>I thought you made wonderful points. HS baptism, is too often not understood as the birth of grace into the Body that it is, and tongues, and other gifts, are often faked, abused, and used for a pitiful dividing line. But I couldn&#8217;t say &#8220;not there&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with you, in that I have also felt pressure to &#039;fake&#039; tongues among people who thought that that was the sign of who was a &quot;Real&quot; Christian and who was not. The Spirit gives different gifts to different people for different purposes, and none are any &#039;better&#039; than the other. He also touches us all in different ways-some of us get quiet and reverent, some ecstatic, some cry, some just get a feeling of peace. All very individual and all legitimate...I do not understand why some people want to think that everyone has to be exactly alike for it to be &#039;evidence&#039; that God is working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with you, in that I have also felt pressure to &#8216;fake&#8217; tongues among people who thought that that was the sign of who was a &#8220;Real&#8221; Christian and who was not. The Spirit gives different gifts to different people for different purposes, and none are any &#8216;better&#8217; than the other. He also touches us all in different ways-some of us get quiet and reverent, some ecstatic, some cry, some just get a feeling of peace. All very individual and all legitimate&#8230;I do not understand why some people want to think that everyone has to be exactly alike for it to be &#8216;evidence&#8217; that God is working.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev Tommy</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hey, it was only last week that a potentially wonderful brother in Christ harrassed me with the &quot;do you speak in tongues?&quot; all important question!

I seem to be a magnet for this . . . 

just to tell u wot my response was - i spend less time trying to cultivate the &quot;gifts of the spirit&quot;, when im so occupied with the &quot;fruit of the spirit&quot;! Im still working on the love, joy, peace, self control and all that!

Judge em by their fruits!

Rev Tommy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it was only last week that a potentially wonderful brother in Christ harrassed me with the &#8220;do you speak in tongues?&#8221; all important question!</p>
<p>I seem to be a magnet for this . . . </p>
<p>just to tell u wot my response was &#8211; i spend less time trying to cultivate the &#8220;gifts of the spirit&#8221;, when im so occupied with the &#8220;fruit of the spirit&#8221;! Im still working on the love, joy, peace, self control and all that!</p>
<p>Judge em by their fruits!</p>
<p>Rev Tommy</p>
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