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	<title>Comments on: Have Southern Baptists Turned A Page?</title>
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	<description>...dispatches from the post-evangelical wilderness</description>
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		<title>By: sbrogden</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/514/comment-page-1#comment-7041</link>
		<dc:creator>sbrogden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendt - you&#039;ll have to be blunt with me: Where and how did the SBC condemn the actions of Christ and the admonition of Paul?  I may be a bit confused, because of the recent activity of Episicapol Church USA :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendt &#8211; you&#8217;ll have to be blunt with me: Where and how did the SBC condemn the actions of Christ and the admonition of Paul?  I may be a bit confused, because of the recent activity of Episicapol Church USA <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Two-Sheds Gomer</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/514/comment-page-1#comment-7032</link>
		<dc:creator>Two-Sheds Gomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart, would that be the Biblically sound organization that passed a resolution condemning the actions of Christ and the admonition of Paul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart, would that be the Biblically sound organization that passed a resolution condemning the actions of Christ and the admonition of Paul?</p>
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		<title>By: sbrogden</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/514/comment-page-1#comment-7031</link>
		<dc:creator>sbrogden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Page will cause us to rejoice in the months ahead.  I am still grieved at seeing Rick Warren, Kerry Shook, Erwin McManus, and David Jerimiah join an otherwise solid slate of speakers for the SBC Pastor&#039;s Conference that was part of the convention.  Why on Earth would a Biblically sound organization allow these men to speak to its pastors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Page will cause us to rejoice in the months ahead.  I am still grieved at seeing Rick Warren, Kerry Shook, Erwin McManus, and David Jerimiah join an otherwise solid slate of speakers for the SBC Pastor&#8217;s Conference that was part of the convention.  Why on Earth would a Biblically sound organization allow these men to speak to its pastors?</p>
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		<title>By: Two-Sheds Gomer</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/514/comment-page-1#comment-7020</link>
		<dc:creator>Two-Sheds Gomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 and #6 confuse me. Ya mean it wasn&#039;t true when I was told that you can&#039;t be a Southern Baptist and a Calvinist?  But it was said by a former SBC pastor and oft-times &quot;messenger&quot;. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 and #6 confuse me. Ya mean it wasn&#8217;t true when I was told that you can&#8217;t be a Southern Baptist and a Calvinist?  But it was said by a former SBC pastor and oft-times &#8220;messenger&#8221;. <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scot McKnight</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/514/comment-page-1#comment-7018</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot McKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iMonk,
I rely on you and Steve McCoy to keep me informed about the 
SBC so know I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iMonk,<br />
I rely on you and Steve McCoy to keep me informed about the<br />
SBC so know I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/514/comment-page-1#comment-7017</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for designated giving. My salary sortof depends on it. :-) But the CP is important. Not just in a pragmatic way, but in lots of deeper, important, significant ways that SBCers don&#039;t want to ever neglect. The direction for the past 15 years has been to increase missions giving, but to decrease CP giving. Let&#039;s have both, and let&#039;s have leaders who embody both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for designated giving. My salary sortof depends on it. <img src='http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But the CP is important. Not just in a pragmatic way, but in lots of deeper, important, significant ways that SBCers don&#8217;t want to ever neglect. The direction for the past 15 years has been to increase missions giving, but to decrease CP giving. Let&#8217;s have both, and let&#8217;s have leaders who embody both.</p>
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		<title>By: steve yates</title>
		<link>http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/514/comment-page-1#comment-7015</link>
		<dc:creator>steve yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to the SBC on electing someone who cares about missions. To be honest, I thought that was something we were already supposed to be good at (insert sarcastic chuckle here). No, seriously, I&#039;m very proud of my denomination, and support your comments here. We have to stop &quot;programming&quot; (FAITH anyone?) and begin to impliment things that will change the denomination itself, not simply the methods by which we do things. However,I have to say (although much of me was pulling for Dr. Page) Ronnie Floyd as a church leader is getting much flak thrown his way that Ronnie Floyd the potential prez should be getting. There is nothing wrong with deciding to spend your church&#039;s monies on being missional within your community, against the will of the SBC. There&#039;s just somthing wrong with wanting to head up that same SBC afterwards.

Question: could we be wrong about electing someone who supports CP giving so strongly? Could such an emphasis actually de-claw the same missional push we pray for in that churches wishing to make a difference in the communities God has placed them in will no longer be able to place their resources in those communities for fear of SBC watchdogs?

for glory,
steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the SBC on electing someone who cares about missions. To be honest, I thought that was something we were already supposed to be good at (insert sarcastic chuckle here). No, seriously, I&#8217;m very proud of my denomination, and support your comments here. We have to stop &#8220;programming&#8221; (FAITH anyone?) and begin to impliment things that will change the denomination itself, not simply the methods by which we do things. However,I have to say (although much of me was pulling for Dr. Page) Ronnie Floyd as a church leader is getting much flak thrown his way that Ronnie Floyd the potential prez should be getting. There is nothing wrong with deciding to spend your church&#8217;s monies on being missional within your community, against the will of the SBC. There&#8217;s just somthing wrong with wanting to head up that same SBC afterwards.</p>
<p>Question: could we be wrong about electing someone who supports CP giving so strongly? Could such an emphasis actually de-claw the same missional push we pray for in that churches wishing to make a difference in the communities God has placed them in will no longer be able to place their resources in those communities for fear of SBC watchdogs?</p>
<p>for glory,<br />
steve</p>
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