Comments on: 10 Questions for Complementarians by Bill Mackinnon

By: skerrib

skerrib — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:15:32 +0000

One explanation I’ve heard over the years is that, Paul is addressing how he has handled specific conflicts. He’s not saying “God says do not permit…” but “I do not permit…” Yes? No? Maybe?

By: Melanie

Melanie — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:07:35 +0000

If you look into the ancient language of 1 Timothy 2:12, you will find that the word “women” can also be translated as “wife” and the word “man” can also be translated as “husband.” Even further, you will discover that the word “teach” can be translated as “rebuke”. Using these different translations the verse now sounds something like this…

And I do not permit a wife to rebuke or to have authority over her husband, but to be in silence.

That is just some food for thought…

By: John Rothra

John Rothra — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:20:43 +0000

Bill,

Very thought provoking questions. There are many areas where believers need to ensure they apply Scripture both accurately and consistently. Your contribution to this debate over a woman’s role in ministry based on 1 Timothy is very refreshing.

I’ve submitted it to http://www.faithtag.com (http://www.faithtag.com/story.php?title=Womens_role_in_ministry_based_on_1_Timothy_212) so others can read it, too.

By: aspotofblogger

aspotofblogger — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:10:23 +0000

Q11. So what happens when and if your President and Vice President die and the Speaker of the House assumes power?

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:55:52 +0000

It doesn’t matter what you believe about the proper role of women in the church. This is just wrong. In attempting to uphold one Scripture verse concerning female submission, Patterson has trampled on a million other Scriptural principles concerning love, justice, and the equality of all before Christ. I don’t know what Paul’s intentions were in 1 Timothy 2:12, but surely he did not intend for it to be used as justification for anything this outrageous.

By: jeuby

jeuby — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:55:59 +0000

my question in all of this concerns another verse found in the same passage (1 Tim 2:9 NKJV) “in like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing”.

so is paige patterson going be consistent and crack down on all those heathen women in his seminary that have braided hair or gold or pearls on them? is there going to be dress code inspection ensuring that these women are wearing clothing purchased at the local walmart, target, goody’s or thift store?

i don’t understand how certain leaders of the SBC can pick and choose which texts to apply and put into practice, all the while continuing to insist that the whole of scripture is authoritative, sufficient, inerrant (i forget all the other words they tag on there . . .)

i grew up southern baptist (and still technically am because my membership is still there) and to be quite honest, i’m not sure what i believe on this issue. i understand patterson’s point of view, whether i agree with it or not is another question. that’s his logical conclusion coming out of how he approaches scripture, and he’s simply being true to what he believes.

but there’s a more fundamental issue than women in ministry at hand. that’s how we approach scripture. whether the SBC wants to admit it or not, they say that they don’t believe the commands in paul’s epistles are bound to a certain culutres, times or situations, but instead they are God’s will and required in all cultures in all times. but in practice they deny that and pick and choose what they want apply.

By: u2wesley

u2wesley — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:19:03 +0000

Does Dorothy Patterson have any men in her classes at Southwestern?

By: Michael Spencer

Michael Spencer — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:59:12 +0000

My views are fairly well known. I believe churches should do what they believe is right, and I’m an egalitarian.

By: 2m

2m — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:29:20 +0000

Michael,

I’m interested in your comment on the 1Tim2:12 passage. The reason for women being fobidden to teach is directly linked here with the fact that Adam was created first and that Eve was decieved.

Marcia

By: Bill MacKinnon

Bill MacKinnon — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:02:21 +0000

My complementarianism pretty much begins and ends at the role of pastor, at least where that verse is concerned. Gammell raises a good question about the places where he seems to almost step out of the role of the definitive teacher and simply give his opinion. It’s a good point but I think whatever he said is still probably going to fall under the blanket of “inspiration.” I don’t have a good answer.